New EA pricing

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It's almost like they know that there's a global push to use more electricity
 

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If a business pays for the free charging that is fine but when it rolls into the customer base that is ridiculous.
 


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Damn. Now get rid of free charging.
Free charging isn't the problem. UNLIMITED free charging is the problem. Car companies need to give out a certain number of charging KWH (like the 250 I received with my Mach-E), so at least people will use them a little more carefully.
 

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Free charging isn't the problem. UNLIMITED free charging is the problem. Car companies need to give out a certain number of charging KWH (like the 250 I received with my Mach-E), so at least people will use them a little more carefully.
Even the ID.4 free 30 minute charging is a problem. All they do is charge for 29 minutes, unplug, re-plug back in for another 29 minutes and repeat....until they reach 100%.
 

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Free charging isn't the problem. UNLIMITED free charging is the problem. Car companies need to give out a certain number of charging KWH (like the 250 I received with my Mach-E), so at least people will use them a little more carefully.
How is free charging the problem? Isn't EA just charging the manufacturer for the costs, probably at a slightly reduced amount, but they're still paying for it, no?
 

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How is free charging the problem? Isn't EA just charging the manufacturer for the costs, probably at a slightly reduced amount, but they're still paying for it, no?
I guess you've been out in the real world instead of here. The problem is that locals tie up the limited EA chargers to go up to 100% because it's free and don't care how long it takes because they're doing errands or whatever they were going to do anyway. Then folks on a road trip have to wait an hour for the 1 working charger to become available.
 

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oh - and the title's misleading. This is the first EA increase in at least 2 years. They announced a while ago they were raising prices by 6 cents a kwh; this is just reiterating it.
 

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I guess you've been out in the real world instead of here. The problem is that locals tie up the limited EA chargers to go up to 100% because it's free and don't care how long it takes because they're doing errands or whatever they were going to do anyway. Then folks on a road trip have to wait an hour for the 1 working charger to become available.
Oh, sorry, this thread is about the increase in costs of charging and everyone is saying to now get rid of free charging. I was thinking it was tied to the increase of costs. I am very much aware of how they hog chargers, circumvent limits, etc.
 

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the only free slow charging ev is ID4 i believe. It takes less than 20 mins for the koreans to fast charge. i charge my i5 once every 2 weeks for 20mins. i could charge at home but i like free :)
 

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This is the same, already announced, price increase.
 

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How is free charging the problem? Isn't EA just charging the manufacturer for the costs, probably at a slightly reduced amount, but they're still paying for it, no?
The problem is it's free to the CUSTOMER, so they only use the DC chargers all the time (even when they should charge at home or work on L2 chargers). And to make it worse, since they aren't road-tripping, they just leave it plugged in until it reaches 100%. It causes unnecessary congestion at DC chargers.
 

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Even the ID.4 free 30 minute charging is a problem. All they do is charge for 29 minutes, unplug, re-plug back in for another 29 minutes and repeat....until they reach 100%.
That is unlimited charging. If they were smart, it would be 30 minutes per day, so they can't just plug right back in.
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