Finally really felt the 5 second limit

[BigMach-E]

I have felt the 5 second full power limitation, and if you are aware of it, you can drive around it, kind of. But today, since I have a fresh new upgraded HVJB, I was passing a car on a two lane road, was immediately behind another car that was going below the speed limit (55), so I punched throttle again to pass, and yeah, second throttle event had like 2 seconds of power, then it felt like molasses. It’s a real thing, I had enough juice to get around the car, but it’s something that prospective buyers should be aware of.

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[leeman]

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[ryi0205]

I have felt the 5 second full power limitation, and if you are aware of it, you can drive around it, kind of. But today, since I have a fresh new upgraded HVJB, I was passing a car on a two lane road, was immediately behind another car that was going below the speed limit (55), so I punched throttle again to pass, and yeah, second throttle event had like 2 seconds of power, then it felt like molasses. It’s a real thing, I had enough juice to get around the car, but it’s something that prospective buyers should be aware of.

I do not have a GT so do not know what the extra power through those 5 seconds feel like. After the 5 seconds, when you said it felt like molasses, is the power that you do still have equivalent to what a non-GT AWD ER may have? Just curious.

 

[buzznwood]

I do not have a GT so do not know what the extra power through those 5 seconds feel like. After the 5 seconds, when you said it felt like molasses, is the power that you do still have equivalent to what a non-GT AWD ER may have? Just curious.

This video from a while back shows you how bad it is you can very easily get it to have less than half the power so less than an AWD ER and down to small battery RWD teriorty. Also the 5 seconds is really only from 0mph once you get up to freeway speeds and your lucky if you to get 2 seconds.



Sure you will see see plenty of people that say it is not an issue or not noticeable, maybe that is true if your used to driving a Prius but the reality is if you have a working butt dyno it is bloody obvious. Yes you can drive around it and take it into account and most owners no doubt have done so by now but anyone used to a performance vehicle will have noticed the serious reduction in power within the first few moments of giving it the beans.

As a more comfortable (with magneride) subjectively better looking version of the mach-e with just occasional use of the low down extra poke you get to quickly get up to speed of the flow of traffic from a standstill in everyday situations then GT/GTPE is fine and worth getting but when viewed as a performance EV it is a performance turd.

With more performance options in this segment on the way Ford will need to pull its finger out and rectify the situation at some point or just drop the GT/GTPE from the model line up as marketing performance where none exists is going to become a hard sell.

As an performance EV the GT/ GTPE already has a pedestrian top speed so Ford just needs to fix it so it can sustain full power to that top speed at which point it doesn't need much power to maintain. Even just doubling it to a maximum of 10 seconds of full power regardless if you ask for it at 0mph or 50mph would be enough to fix most peoples complaints

 

[Auto Motive]

I have felt the 5 second full power limitation, and if you are aware of it, you can drive around it, kind of. But today, since I have a fresh new upgraded HVJB, I was passing a car on a two lane road, was immediately behind another car that was going below the speed limit (55), so I punched throttle again to pass, and yeah, second throttle event had like 2 seconds of power, then it felt like molasses. It’s a real thing, I had enough juice to get around the car, but it’s something that prospective buyers should be aware of.

My wife loves her GTPE as do our grandkids. Our area is rural and speed limits of 50mph and under. She gets 3.5kwh in winter. Always hot so no heater above 32 and keeps with to the speed limits. I just ordered a tesla mode y AWD long range. Prices drop again just after I bought it. 330 miles range, 385 hp lots of torque so it's quick, 155 mph top speed no cut off, around same size as mach e and minilistic interior which looks nice. Seats and suspension on test drive very smooth and comfortable. Bought gray with black wheels base down to $50k, $1000 paint, $2000 custom wheels and $7500 tax credit applies. What a deal. Car coming in next week.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

My wife loves her GTPE as do our grandkids. Our area is rural and speed limits of 50mph and under. She gets 3.5kwh in winter. Always hot so no heater above 32 and keeps with to the speed limits. I just ordered a tesla mode y AWD long range. Prices drop again just after I bought it. 330 miles range, 385 hp lots of torque so it's quick, 155 mph top speed no cut off, around same size as mach e and minilistic interior which looks nice. Seats and suspension on test drive very smooth and comfortable. Bought gray with black wheels base down to $50k, $1000 paint, $2000 custom wheels and $7500 tax credit applies. What a deal. Car coming in next week.

1. It is quick.
2. It will not get close to 330 miles of range unless you only drive slow and in town.
3. The build quality is still very bad.

Source: recently had a Y and 3 from Hertz for an extended period. Particular issue is the frameless windows failing to seal properly, the 3 actually leaked some when driving on the highway during a normal rain event. Plus, it was loud af because of the leak. The Y was the same but didn’t leak water. Both were 2022s with low miles that still smelled new.

My 2002 Firebird Formula with t-tops actually had better water resistance, it only leaked a bit in high pressure washes. The 3 we rented would have allowed water to literally pour in had we gone through a wash in it.

I hope your experience is much better.

 

[BigMach-E]

This video from a while back shows you how bad it is you can very easily get it to have less than half the power so less than an AWD ER and down to small battery RWD teriorty. Also the 5 seconds is really only from 0mph once you get up to freeway speeds and your lucky if you to get 2 seconds.



Sure you will see see plenty of people that say it is not an issue or not noticeable, maybe that is true if your used to driving a Prius but the reality is if you have a working butt dyno it is bloody obvious. Yes you can drive around it and take it into account and most owners no doubt have done so by now but anyone used to a performance vehicle will have noticed the serious reduction in power within the first few moments of giving it the beans.

As a more comfortable (with magneride) subjectively better looking version of the mach-e with just occasional use of the low down extra poke you get to quickly get up to speed of the flow of traffic from a standstill in everyday situations then GT/GTPE is fine and worth getting but when viewed as a performance EV it is a performance turd.

With more performance options in this segment on the way Ford will need to pull its finger out and rectify the situation at some point or just drop the GT/GTPE from the model line up as marketing performance where none exists is going to become a hard sell.

As an performance EV the GT/ GTPE already has a pedestrian top speed so Ford just needs to fix it so it can sustain full power to that top speed at which point it doesn't need much power to maintain. Even just doubling it to a maximum of 10 seconds of full power regardless if you ask for it at 0mph or 50mph would be enough to fix most peoples complaints

This is it exactly. Ford has doubly “messed the bed” here. I can’t stand Teslas, but the fact that a MYP realistically costs 20 k less than a MME GTPE at this point, has way better straight line performance, never had a issue that could cause loss of all motive power makes the GTPE with a 5 second power throttling a tough sell. Build quality isn’t worth 20k.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

I do not have a GT so do not know what the extra power through those 5 seconds feel like. After the 5 seconds, when you said it felt like molasses, is the power that you do still have equivalent to what a non-GT AWD ER may have? Just curious.

No. A 4X pulls pretty hard up to about 105-108, then the digits slow as they climb to 113mph and stop. I’ve done this multiple times in ours. The GT acceleration after the 5 seconds limit slows to a glacial pace, looks to be less than 200HP output. There was a Motor Week test video that shows the painful acceleration past 75-80mph when they did their 1/4 mile testing.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

My wife loves her GTPE as do our grandkids. Our area is rural and speed limits of 50mph and under. She gets 3.5kwh in winter. Always hot so no heater above 32 and keeps with to the speed limits. I just ordered a tesla mode y AWD long range. Prices drop again just after I bought it. 330 miles range, 385 hp lots of torque so it's quick, 155 mph top speed no cut off, around same size as mach e and minilistic interior which looks nice. Seats and suspension on test drive very smooth and comfortable. Bought gray with black wheels base down to $50k, $1000 paint, $2000 custom wheels and $7500 tax credit applies. What a deal. Car coming in next week.

If your wife is getting 3.5 kwh in the winter in a GTPE, then she's the kind of driver that most likely won't noticed the 5sec power limit.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

No. A 4X pulls pretty hard up to about 105-108, then the digits slow as they climb to 113mph and stop. I’ve done this multiple times in ours. The GT acceleration after the 5 seconds limit slows to a glacial pace, looks to be less than 200HP output. There was a Motor Week test video that shows the painful acceleration past 75-80mph when they did their 1/4 mile testing.

I can attest. The GTPE is slow after 75mph. Where this affects me is when I want to change lane when the freeway is busy. I can't just jam on the pedal and move into the small open spot, I have to anticipate brief seconds it need to pick up speed then move over. The instant torque is just not there after 75mph.

 

[alangsam]

this is actually a pretty dangerous and frankly deceptive capability or lack thereof.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

this is actually a pretty dangerous and frankly deceptive capability or lack thereof.

Yeah, a 480hp EV that requires “plan b” redundancy when executing simple passing maneuvers is some next level b.s.

I’ve said this here before, the 5 second limit is all that kept us from trading my wife’s 4X in on a GTPE back when Vroom and Driveway were offering us $61,000 to buy ours. ??‍

 

[AliRafiee]

You got hit with the speed power reduction limit. After 80 it literally hits a brick wall. The faster you go, the less power you have.

 

[BigMach-E]

You got hit with the speed power reduction limit. After 80 it literally hits a brick wall. The faster you go, the less power you have.

Yeah, Ford needs to fix this, for existing owners, not with model year redesign. The fact that there was so much deceptive marketing about the performance of the GTPE and no attempt to resolve this power throttling may lead me to never buying another new Ford again. Don’t get me wrong, the GTPE is great in other ways, but the 5 second limit is shameful.

 

[Hammered]

I passed 4 cars and a semi on a 2 lane road in one go while sliding in behind another one. Zero lack of power or confidence in the vehicle's capability. Passed the last one when the road straightened up again. I could see how an inattentive driver may be caught off guard with it.

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