I just sent the author a tweet requesting the conditions he did the range testing. Hopefully he responds since I asked him nicely and being a fellow Canadian I hope he obliges ?
When the epa number went from 270 to 250 mi (was hoping for 290 a least on a 100 KWh pack) cold weather range got tight. Numbers indicate at 90% charge I should make my Ottawa run down to the about -10 oF (yesterday and this morning -15 oF ). There is no way I am going to head into the barren wilderness in sub-zero temps unless sure and now not sure that will be the case unless at least 90% charge. With the throttling at 80% that appears to now leave me sitting at a charge for another hour in -10 oC hoping the sun doesn't go down (I will go for a walk for a few hours; possibly make friends with a bed
). Heard a lot about don't believe the numbers but initial indication is that numbers do not lie. Did you read the The first test: So good is Ford's new electric car (posted here already and credit due, thanks). Needs to be translated but excellent journalism and a good read. Been watching Kyle for awhile. Believe he had the car for a day, believe he has driven a few ev's, believe he is a smart man. I do not believe he would have just thrown out a number like that unless he watched it all day and was fairly confident the number was in the ball park. 45 oF 70 mph 2.1 Km/kw (185 mi, 129 at 80 to 10%) not even cold. Did you see the top gear vid?
Which video did you see 2.1 in, and where? I don't remember that in Kyle's drive video posted here.
No typo watch the vid.
Go to 25:42 for the start then skip to 32:00 mark for results. Kyle does a 11mi run at 70mph in 45F rain with the computer reset for accuracy. It's not very scientific but it's what the car reported.
That's prolly in line with all BEVs in those conditions. Full cabin heat, uphill 200 ft, 70mph for 10-11 miles, cold weather, into the wind (wind speed tbd). You can't escape that no matter what vehicle you are in.
The Top Gear video was revealing since like 12% of energy used was for cabin heating and another 11% for external heating (battery & motors?). Ideally a heat pump would be able to take advantage of that.
Thank you for providing the video. I'd checked the one posted in the videos thread and this one is longer. That one was only 7:44 and didn't have this in it. Trying to discuss sections of a video in a different thread is a PITA.
Maybe, but those aren't anywhere close to extreme conditions. They're pretty normal outside the Sun Belt. 45F is chilly but it's a typical December day for most of the country. Requiring a normal amount of cabin heat. And 200 ft of incline over 10 miles is pretty flat (a mere 0.37% grade). Wind is a question mark, but I didn't see any while he was standing next to the car at the start. The road was wet, but only mildly so.
45 oF can be a 15% diff (not including accessories so 2.5)? Temperature is not your friend. I do not want to get misunderstood. I am really looking forward to it, sounds like a comfortable vehicle that I want to try. I am always an early adopter to new tech and pay to much
. These will get better and this one looks good, indicated to drive well and appears robust. Should have no problem fitting in. Waiting for more consumption info; it is interesting. Flaming Tesla on scalars not as interesting. Charging will get better (closer) is where I am hoping.
Agreed. I'm still getting mine (to pair with our Escape). This is more a point about BEVs in general. They look great rolling down the road in Sunny SoCal, but they're not for everybody. At least yet, anyway. Still a lot of issues/compromises that need to be improved for most of the populous before they will reach deep into the mainstream market.45 oF can be a 15% diff (not including accessories so 2.5)? Temperature is not your friend. I do not want to get misunderstood. I am really looking forward to it, sounds like a comfortable vehicle that I want to try. I am always an early adopter to new tech and pay to much
Our power generator (OPG) has jumped in and that is good news. Up here the Tesla charger spacing is worse. I am in a totally different boat and more like northern states. If the heat was on but not at 70 then another 10% on accessories 2.8? It is the cold that has the worse impact, just like the charging curve at 80% it drops right off, something that may not concern you at all? How cold does it get in the mountains? It is not range anxiety it is charger distance anxiety here right now; this is where things need to improve.
I think it's both. More chargers make many trips possible, but not necessarily preferable. Range does both. If you can make it all 200 miles without stopping, where you just "park it & forget it" plugged into an L2 charger at your destination, that's much easier than having to stop in the middle for 20 minutes to charge.
Wait, what?
