Out of Spec Kyle reviews the 2024 Mach-E

[spicy_taco]

What is it that I see... a centered speedometer?

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[Ssun0108]

이 디스플레이가 그리워요.
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[TheSteelRider]

What I liked about what he was saying at the end if you’ve already got one, unless you really want to get that new model it’s really worth keeping your 23 or older. I’m not sure if he was referring to something below 2023 as well.
I have a question while he was driving in the very beginning of the video or it could’ve been towards the middle that area on the dash in the lower left-hand corner with the lightning bolt where it shows regeneration does that blue area he was talking about?

Power Meter - see this thread: https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/how-to-enable-power-meter-on-non-gt-mach-e.18783

 

[DaMeatMan]

I watch Kyle's reviews pretty religiously and love his tempered, good natured, but still balanced approach to reviews- especially this one. He puts a lot of good perspective on the improvements and misses, but doesn't dwell on them and allows for the car in its present state to speak for itself.

I ended up with a 23.5 (bought literally a week before the 24's hit), but I'm still happy with the deal I negotiated and the overall performance of the car. We traded in a '19 Jaguar I-Pace for the MME, making this the third time we rejected a Model Y (we also have a 23 Bolt that we love). I feel like this review echoes many of the things we kept in mind as we were shopping for our third EV.

I absolutely agree with Kyle on virtually every point he made in thus video from the good to the bad. I also agree that allot of folks, himself included have given Ford a bit of a pass up until now. Mostly because they see Ford made a real concerted effort at their first "true" EV. But the time for that has come and gone, competition out there is pretty fierce, and there are still to many little things that are still left on the table that could have easily been improved.

When he said.. "what do these guys do every day"... in reference to leaving this fairly simple low hanging fruit untouched and "on their road map", I couldn't help but laugh out loud! 100% what are they thinking over there?

Folks it's 2024, and we are a full 3 years (after) the launch of their initial product and we still have ZERO USEFUL INFORMATION in the vehicle in regards to how fast or slow we are charging... ZERO... yet they displayed this info (in the app) in real time! How freaking hard of an engineering challenge is it to display that info in the vehicle! The info is obviously available, the hardware is capable of meaure this, and you are sending it OUT OF THE VEHICLE... give us the info @FordMotorCompany!

Not to mention the driver facing screen is completely (non-customizable) in the Mach-E, yet on a combustion Ford, be it a Mustang or an Escape, the driver facing screen is fully customizable!! What the heck are you folks smoking over there?? Why do you think it's OK to give your "bleeding edge" vehicles that your company is heavily dependent upon to do well, LESS FUNCTIONALITY and customization than your legacy vehicles that cost far less I might add!?

Common Ford.. this sort of thing is absolutely silly, and the criticisms are well deserved! It's software for goodness sakes! Get your act together and do better!

The Mach-E is a FANTASTIC VEHICLE that falls short because of absolutely silly and dare i day lazy software implementations!

End rant!...

 

[ericNdfw]

Can someone post a summary, I don't have an hour-plus to watch Kyle drone on and on.

 

[AhardFSU]

Can someone post a summary, I don't have an hour-plus to watch Kyle drone on and on.

Software needs improvements (he likes to site Tesla, Rivian, Lucid), charging speeds should be where the class leaders are (Hyundai), why is there start button (should be able to start without a button like GM or Tesla).

Personally, I don’t care if the car has start button or some other way to start the car. I do wish Ford would have been a little more aggressive with the charging speeds but it’s better.

Where I really am disappointed is that Ford still hasn’t decided that it’s best to put a faster processor in the car so that Sync loads and runs much faster and smoother. I think processor and engineering decisions such as having the charging speeds displayed in the vehicle are related to Ford’s cost saving efforts and a willingness to go with good enough and not best in class.

 

[jdhzzz]

Where I really am disappointed is that Ford still hasn’t decided that it’s best to put a faster processor in the car so that Sync loads and runs much faster and smoother. I think processor and engineering decisions such as having the charging speeds displayed in the vehicle are related to Ford’s cost saving efforts and a willingness to go with good enough and not best in class.

How much would you pay for a swap-out for a higher performance processor? I would expect For could have designed in a swappable processor socket knowing that 3-5 years a new processor would be available that would (roughly) double performance. It would refresh the Sync experience. I'd probably pay up to $1000 without thinking too hard. After that, I'd have to think on it a bit. At $2500, I'd need permission from senior management. It would be an easy way for Ford to raise customer satisfaction and make some easy money.

 

[Rabidsquirrel22]

How much would you pay for a swap-out for a higher performance processor? I would expect For could have designed in a swappable processor socket knowing that 3-5 years a new processor would be available that would (roughly) double performance. It would refresh the Sync experience. I'd probably pay up to $1000 without thinking too hard. After that, I'd have to think on it a bit. At $2500, I'd need permission from senior management. It would be an easy way for Ford to raise customer satisfaction and make some easy money.

Ford gave Chinese Mach-E customers a FREE processor upgrade because it was too laggy and slow for them.

Apparently they care more about the 5 Chinese customers that bought a Mach-E than the tens of thousands of American and European customers.

 

[SWO]

I like a "Start" button. Eruption Green looks awesome!

Agree.

I think the folks who don't want start buttons are the same folks who view cars as appliances.

In that vein, I don't really think of him as a car guy, more of a tech nerd. He goes way into the weeds on specs. At the same time, he doesn't seem like he really knows a lot about cars - his towing videos are cringe-worthy:

 

[RedDeadRegen]

The Mach E Rally video is up today, and while I enjoyed the entire review, my favorite part is them calling out Ford for not offering a customizable drive mode in the Mach E (@ 25 min mark)

 

[DaMeatMan]

Ford gave Chinese Mach-E customers a FREE processor upgrade because it was too laggy and slow for them.

Apparently they care more about the 5 Chinese customers that bought a Mach-E than the tens of thousands of American and European customers.

I think what your negating here is that the Chinese market is pretty fierce, there is way nore product offerings in China to chose from than there are in the North American markets, and despite what many are conditioned to believe about Chinese manufacturing, the built quality is actually really good, the price is much cheaper, and the features offered are incredible. So they definitely could not enter that market with a clunky lagging processor, and actually be serious about selling their cars.

Now all of that said... how much could an upgraded processor actually be? In the grand scheme of things I doubt it would even move the needle on the overall cost of the vehicle, so I am definitely with you in terms of wanting to see an upgrade for North American markets as well, because it does feel pretty dated, and Im sure it will be a limiting factor holding us back with future updates that require more processing power.

 

[CarGuyBill]

What is it that I see... a centered speedometer?

Surly we must be seeing things.

 

[CarGuyBill]

Not only a centered speedometer but a fuel gauge again? Next thing we might see some App Draws again WOW.

 

[MachEMaster]

Agree.

I think the folks who don't want start buttons are the same folks who view cars as appliances.

In that vein, I don't really think of him as a car guy, more of a tech nerd. He goes way into the weeds on specs. At the same time, he doesn't seem like he really knows a lot about cars - his towing videos are cringe-worthy:

I test drove the VW iD4, before the Mach E. It was during COVID, so the sales person was not with me. I had to Google how to "Start" it. If that wasn't bad enough, I had to Google how to put into "Park". Never thought of looking for a small button hidden at the end of the R/H stalk. The Mach E just fit me better.

 

[Mach-Lee]

Surly we must be seeing things.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/i-need-help-can’t-get-rid-of-this-car.36151/post-803697

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