One pedal versus two pedal driving

[Jerrytball]

and this has "WHAT to do with 1 or 2 pedal driving/stoping ??????

I’ll just make it short and more to the point , It has to do with hard braking, one pedal causes less hard stopping.

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[dawger007]

Owners Manuals have grown in size as vehicles have gained complexity and lawyers are necessary to provide disclaimers for almost every one of those new features.

Chopping down the trees for 750 page manuals for 1/2 million F150's annually is a waste of paper and glove box space.

The PDF version makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

my issus is - who has an hour or more to waste ,in the car , looking on center screen . to go through the owners manual , in the car , when up to now had paper copy included in purchase and could be read - consulted anywhere . Old school, just Ford saving a buck, like no jack , or tire wrench , and in 2024 no charge cable ........ save the planet you say , I say Ford finding ways to protect their profit margin.........the buck is important to them, just an opionin........and rant !

 

[Snakebitten]

my issus is - who has an hour or more to waste ,in the car , looking on center screen . to go through the owners manual , in the car , when up to now had paper copy included in purchase and could be read - consulted anywhere . Old school, just Ford saving a buck, like no jack , or tire wrench , and in 2024 no charge cable ........ save the planet you say , I say Ford finding ways to protect their profit margin.........the buck is important to them, just an opionin........and rant !

I didn't say save the planet.
Did mention some trees though.

I have the PDF version of both of my Ford vehicles saved to the cloud. Can access the owners manual anytime, anywhere.

I even have the Ford Factory Authorized Service Manual for both vehicles. The Powerboost manual is 18,000 pages and is awesome to use search against in its digital format.

The Mach-E Service Manual is 14,000 and includes the wiring manual.

 

[Snakebitten]

 

[Jerrytball]

I didn't say save the planet.
Did mention some trees though.

I have the PDF version of both of my Ford vehicles saved to the cloud. Can access the owners manual anytime, anywhere.

I even have the Ford Factory Authorized Service Manual for both vehicles. The Powerboost manual is 18,000 pages and is awesome to use search against in its digital format.

The Mach-E Service Manual is 14,000 and includes the wiring manual.

Snake, do you do like I do get a real sharp knife and cut out all the non-English language pages?

 

[EVCheese]

After just getting from a long road trip where me and my partner swapped driving responsibilities and me in 1-PD and him in "normal" mode, it turns out I got more efficiency ... but not by that much. Like max 0.2 miles more per kWh little.

So, imo, drive which ever way you feel without worries of efficiency. However, I find 1-PD to have a smoother deceleration because you're in total control.

 

[White Lightening]

Adding one more thought about 1 vs 2 pedal driving. I've become quite spoiled when highway driving with blue cruise because the car automates so much of the driving process. But... because of real world driving circumstances, sometimes I decide to push the "pause" (Pause/Resume) button to engage manually. Then when things are back on track, I hit "Resume". And yes, I know Blue Cruise will moderate speed automatically when getting too close to the car ahead... but this is for other driving reasons. The point is, if you hit "Pause" in 1 pedal drive, it won't coast... but rather brake down immediately... so you need to have your foot on the accelerator when you do it. MUCH smoother with 2 pedal. Yeah, I'm lazy & just say'n!

 

[Jeffvisor]

Right I don’t disagree with that, but someone had said it does it only in two pedal mode I never used to pedal and when I put it in engage, I see it pop up in the corner?

I only use 1 pedal in Engage mode and I get brake coach on the left side.

 

[Jerrytball]

I only use 1 pedal in Engage mode and I get brake coach on the left side.

I do as well, like I was saying, it’s always done it to me in One pedal and engage.

 

[Digitalsteve]

This topic comes up a lot as our blended braking system confuses a lot of people as to how it works.

Bottom line- no matter what drive mode you are in, the amount of regen or friction brakes is determined by how quickly you slow down, not based on drive mode.

Think of it like pushing a button vs pulling a lever to open a door. Two different inputs to accomplish the same task.

Letting off the throttle in 1PD results in the same regeneration as hitting the brake pedal in 2PD if you’re slowing down at the same rate.

I have used 1 pedal for the past 40k miles. I recently had the high voltage contactor replaced due to recall and now occasionally the 1 pedal drive mode turns off. When it does this going down a hill the car rolls/coasts as if there is no regen, more so than my diesel jeep. It seems to me 1 pedal is a safer way to drive. Wife love it too, slowing down feels like the old days with a manual transmission.

 

[Mach1E]

I have used 1 pedal for the past 40k miles. I recently had the high voltage contactor replaced due to recall and now occasionally the 1 pedal drive mode turns off. When it does this going down a hill the car rolls/coasts as if there is no regen, more so than my diesel jeep. It seems to me 1 pedal is a safer way to drive. Wife love it too, slowing down feels like the old days with a manual transmission.

This situation is exactly why we have a “low” button on the knob.

In 2PD going downhill, hit the L button and it’ll use strong regen without hitting the brake pedal.

Or just get the same regen by hitting the brake pedal. Driver’s choice.


If the 1PD is sometimes turning off, check your profiles to see which profile the car is on. Sometimes it defaults to guest.

The workaround is to change the guest profile settings to the same as your profile (in this cars 1PD).

 

[Digitalsteve]

This situation is exactly why we have a “low” button on the knob.

In 2PD going downhill, hit the L button and it’ll use strong regen without hitting the brake pedal.

Or just get the same regen by hitting the brake pedal. Driver’s choice.


If the 1PD is sometimes turning off, check your profiles to see which profile the car is on. Sometimes it defaults to guest.

The workaround is to change the guest profile settings to the same as your profile (in this cars 1PD).

The 1 pedal error might be tied in with the low button, since the low button has no effect when I hit it after the error. 1 pedal works for 10 minutes or more before it dis-engages and a warning shows up on the display about 1 pedal not being available.

 

[phil]

Adding one more thought about 1 vs 2 pedal driving. I've become quite spoiled when highway driving with blue cruise because the car automates so much of the driving process. But... because of real world driving circumstances, sometimes I decide to push the "pause" (Pause/Resume) button to engage manually. Then when things are back on track, I hit "Resume". And yes, I know Blue Cruise will moderate speed automatically when getting too close to the car ahead... but this is for other driving reasons. The point is, if you hit "Pause" in 1 pedal drive, it won't coast... but rather brake down immediately... so you need to have your foot on the accelerator when you do it. MUCH smoother with 2 pedal. Yeah, I'm lazy & just say'n!

I just hit the brake or 'Set +/-' button, instead of hitting 'pause'. It's as smooth as I want it to be, and just as lazy.

 

[Bruboy]

I have to disagree with that because when I put it in engage, I’m always in one pedal in the brake coach pops up and says how much you’ve regenerated now if you’re not seeing that maybe that is a result of one of the updates because I have had no updates, but I’m pretty sure I’m correct here. Somebody help me out, lol back me up

I have to agree, I only see the "Brake Coach" pop up when I am in Engage

 

[Mach1E]

The 1 pedal error might be tied in with the low button, since the low button has no effect when I hit it after the error. 1 pedal works for 10 minutes or more before it dis-engages and a warning shows up on the display about 1 pedal not being available.

Hmm, that’s something different then. I would take a picture of the error and a video next time it happens and take your car back to the dealer to show them.

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