EV Tires vs. non-EV Regular Tires - test comparison by Tire Rack!

[Mach1E]

Is there a table somewhere with the efficiency #s? Don't see them on the report and can't watch the video right now.

ETA: Here it is:

I just installed pilot sport 4S and love them for the performance. Not surprised they aren’t built for efficiency. Gotta compromise somewhere.

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[nlions]

I purchased a 2023.5 Mach-E GT back in March and am looking at new all-season tire options based on the fair/poor reviews of the OEM Continentals. I will probably give them a shot for one winter season, but I expect I'll be replacing them next year (regardless of mileage/condition) with something better like the AS4, DWS06+, or CC2. That all being said, I was doing some research today and Tire Rack just posted a new video a couple of days ago comparing the popular EV-specific tires to non-EV tires. It's a long video (almost 25 minutes) but has lots of great information:

View the full 2024 test report: https://bit.ly/4erNLqp

00:00 Introduction
01:39 On The Road
09:51 Consumption
11:17 Braking & Skidpad Intro
12:24 Wet Braking & Skidpad
13:16 Dry Braking & Skidpad
14:19 Track Laps Intro
15:50 Wet Lap Times
19:37 Dry Lap Times
22:48 Conclusions

Thanks for the link and the content location. Very interesting analysis.

 

[waldo22]

Speed and load rating, nothing else

Technically all tires need to do is support the weight and have the correct speed rating to be compatible.

And XL rated, not just load rating. Many SL-rated tires have sufficient load rating for the Mach-e, but don't have as many layers in the sidewall as XL-rated tires.

 

[waldo22]

While everyone here is talking about the CC2, allow me to shill for Vredestein's Quatrac Pro (and I guess they have the Pro+ now). I have it in 235/65/R18, and it's been the best winter performing tire I've ever had (apart from dedicated winter tires, of course).

@kltye are you really running 235/65R18 on your MME? Not 235/60R18? 235/65R18 is 1.5" larger than stock, nearly 5%. Generally they say to stay under 3% over or under.

That should give you lots of air and more suspension travel, but are you having any problems with them?

 

[EMachE]

I purchased a 2023.5 Mach-E GT back in March and am looking at new all-season tire options based on the fair/poor reviews of the OEM Continentals. I will probably give them a shot for one winter season, but I expect I'll be replacing them next year (regardless of mileage/condition) with something better like the AS4, DWS06+, or CC2. That all being said, I was doing some research today and Tire Rack just posted a new video a couple of days ago comparing the popular EV-specific tires to non-EV tires. It's a long video (almost 25 minutes) but has lots of great information:

View the full 2024 test report: https://bit.ly/4erNLqp

00:00 Introduction
01:39 On The Road
09:51 Consumption
11:17 Braking & Skidpad Intro
12:24 Wet Braking & Skidpad
13:16 Dry Braking & Skidpad
14:19 Track Laps Intro
15:50 Wet Lap Times
19:37 Dry Lap Times
22:48 Conclusions

I wouldn’t use the factory tires for winter as they are only summer rated.

 

[tuminatr]

And XL rated, not just load rating. Many SL-rated tires have sufficient load rating for the Mach-e, but don't have as many layers in the sidewall as XL-rated tires.

Actually it's just a load rating requirement. I had 245/55/18 103 SL btw that's the proper +0 fitment for the MME on my premium.

If you don't fit an XL it still needs to support the weight. Consult the load and inflation tables to be sure. And unless you are an expert the " this car requires an XL" is probably the best philosophy

I have never seen a p-metric tire with more than two plys in the sidewall. But and to your point I would stick with an XL they typically do offer more robust construction. I won't comment on what is more robust because it is different for each MFR and model.

 

[sukhoi_584th]

Is there any data on the efficiency of the stock Michelin Primacy so they can be compared to the other tires?

 

[gtb75]

One other contender you should at least look at is the Quatrac Pro+. This is what I did for my "winter tire" The reason I chose them is the Vred over the CC2, it was cheaper, performed = and even better in some places (mainly wet), and it's not a directional tire. Rotating tires on a heavy car like the MME is important and directional tires can only be rotated front to back without dismounting.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=306

This test is the old tire called the Quatrac Pro my understanding the difference is better road feel handling lower rolling resistance, and snow handling and braking are improved.

I have been looking at the Vredestein's as well. They and the CC2 are the only ones on my radar with the "severe snow service" rating. That being said I live in the Chicago area and, with the exception of a few days a year, our winters are usually fairly mild - so I may lean towards the UHP all season options when the time comes (AS4, DWS06+, and maybe Hypertrac). But good point about the directional tread... My other "fun" ICE cars wearing summer tires are staggered so rotation isn't an issue there.

I wouldn’t use the factory tires for winter as they are only summer rated.

I have a regular GT which comes with all season tires. The GT PE has summer only tires.

 

[MustangBarry]

I like my CC2. Have had them about 3000 miles and average about 3.7 m/kwh

What were getting for efficiency on your previous (OEM?) tires. I bought CC2 as a replacement on a Plug-in Hybrid (Honda Clarity). Handling, traction and noise were improved but I lost >10% range and fuel economy.

 

[ipca204]

@kltye are you really running 235/65R18 on your MME? Not 235/60R18? 235/65R18 is 1.5" larger than stock, nearly 5%. Generally they say to stay under 3% over or under.

That should give you lots of air and more suspension travel, but are you having any problems with them?

yeah, that size seemed odd to me as well..

 

[tuminatr]

I have been looking at the Vredestein's as well. They and the CC2 are the only ones on my radar with the "severe snow service" rating. That being said I live in the Chicago area and, with the exception of a few days a year, our winters are usually fairly mild - so I may lean towards the UHP all season options when the time comes (AS4, DWS06+, and maybe Hypertrac). But good point about the directional tread... My other "fun" ICE cars wearing summer tires are staggered so rotation isn't an issue there.



I have a regular GT which comes with all season tires. The GT PE has summer only tires.

Yep, Chicago has gotten much milder weather in the last 10 years. Having driven there in the winter the wet performance is what I would key in on.

In terms of tire performance the sleet, freezing rain, slush are considered wet conditions. The Three peak rating is how they will perform before it's plowed. Here in MN the QTP (what I ran last year) worked even when we got deep snow.

One other side note the QTP+ is very efficient about 2% less than the factory. For me that's acceptable for the added traction.

An all weather is perfect for Chicago.

 

[highland58]

Michelin actually markets them as an "all weather" tire. Meaning it is essentially a snow tire that you can run in the summer. TFLEV did both summer and snow traction tests using a Model 3. The snow traction was admirable; certainly no worse than an aggressive AS.

And who are we kidding, with the warming climate there has hardly been a reason to get snow tires anymore. At least here in NH.

CC2s are designed to take water at the center of the tread and push it out to the edges. The center of the "V" touches the road first, then as the tire rolls, the outside edges touch last. This makes them handle water well, and resist hydroplaning. This works well in our somewhat wet climate, and warming climate allows the air to hold more water, and so rain more.

 

[21st Century Pony]

Michelin actually markets them as an "all weather" tire. Meaning it is essentially a snow tire that you can run in the summer. TFLEV did both summer and snow traction tests using a Model 3. The snow traction was admirable; certainly no worse than an aggressive AS.

And who are we kidding, with the warming climate there has hardly been a reason to get snow tires anymore. At least here in NH.

I understand that the safety value of using Winter tires (a.k.a. and perhaps a bit confusingly also known as "snow tires") lies in their much softer compounds... the harder all-season tire compounds can turn almost brittle in the cold, whether snow is present or not.

I was driving on I-70 across Kansas this past January during the cold snap. 2 p.m. and a clear sunny day and zero snow on the highway... but you wouldn't believe the dozens and dozens of cars and trucks in the highway ditch. Not much grip on their tires I guess, 2-wheel drive or 4-wheel drive, on that really cold non-snow road, especially when the vehicle before them began panic-breaking...

I use Vredestein Wintrax in the cold three+ months and have been very happy with their cold weather grip, especially up in the mountains.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I wouldn’t use the factory tires for winter as they are only summer rated.

Based on his avatar pic, he has a non-Magneride GT, which came with All-Season tires. ??

 

[kltye]

@kltye are you really running 235/65R18 on your MME? Not 235/60R18? 235/65R18 is 1.5" larger than stock, nearly 5%. Generally they say to stay under 3% over or under.

That should give you lots of air and more suspension travel, but are you having any problems with them?

yeah, that size seemed odd to me as well..

Yup, my bad; it's 60, not 65. Was half asleep when writing that message ?

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