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OK. I know this is an old thread, but I am about to pull the trigger on new tires any day. Which Hancook should one purchase the the Evo AS or the Evo AS Suv? I think I'd LIKE the CC's but I am on the edge of range of several places I go without access to chargers. So I can't take the range hit, at least as I've seen described.

I know this is a big can of worms. Thanks for your help.
 

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OK. I know this is an old thread, but I am about to pull the trigger on new tires any day. Which Hancook should one purchase the the Evo AS or the Evo AS Suv? I think I'd LIKE the CC's but I am on the edge of range of several places I go without access to chargers. So I can't take the range hit, at least as I've seen described.

I know this is a big can of worms. Thanks for your help.
I went and looked at my Discount Tire order from last Oct. Mine were SUVs.

Ford Mustang Mach-E Hankook iON evo AS tire is impressive (a before and after test by owner) Screenshot_20240724_091409_Gmail
 

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I went and looked at my Discount Tire order from last Oct. Mine were SUVs.

Screenshot_20240724_091409_Gmail.jpg
Thank you. How do you like them? And do you recall why you chose the SUV over the regular?
 

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They seem about the same as the original Michelin's (that we got 49,000 miles from). Maybe a tad bit quieter but negligible. My mileage/range seems to have dropped a little this year (maybe 5-8%) but I can't really say if that's the tires or just battery aging. Probably more the latter.

Overall there really doesn't seem to be much difference from the Michelins. They don't really feel any softer for a smoother ride, but I didn't expect them to be. I'd love a softer ride over bumps/ruts in the city, but we road trip so much (~10k miles/yr) that it's not worth giving up serious range to get it.

I think the SUVs are just what the Discount Tire (and Tire Rack, IIRC) said was the right tire for the Mach-E.
 


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For reference, there is now some objective testing of Hankook Vs others. You may want to check out the link. One thing to keep in mind is wet traction = snow traction so if you live in a region that gets snow maybe consider something else.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=327

Hankook iON evo AS (Grand Touring All-Season, 235/40R19 96W)
  • What We Liked: It's good on the road, light on energy usage, and can perform when pushed in the dry.
  • What We'd Improve: Wet surfaces present a challenge.
  • Summary: A mixed bag that shines in the right situations while leading in efficiency.

Hankook iON evo AS
Not every tire in this test has been specifically built for EVs, but the iON evo AS, from the very composition of its compound to the sound-minimizing patterns molded into its grooves, is dedicated to serving as an electric vehicle tire. It was a bit mixed in practical application on the road, handling big hits well but failing to dampen smaller cracks and undulations, resulting in noticeable up-and-down movement. Noise too, was low volume over smooth surfaces and blended tones nicely, with only minor pitter patter or wind noises muted but noticeable. Even concrete noise only rose to moderate levels with a slightly higher pitch but without any strong resonant sound. The steering was nicely weighted once it was spurred into action, only suffering from some lethargy immediately off-center that made it feel momentarily behind the driver. With 263 Wh/mi, the iON evo AS was handily the most efficient tire tested.

In wet testing, the steering felt lighter, with less weight behind it than on-road, though it remained accurate and precise. Properly separating inputs and not trying to force braking or throttle during turns was important to keep it from drifting away or stepping out, which could be a concern for unprepared drivers during emergency situations. The lower overall traction also required a bit more lead time for braking, leaving little margin for error anywhere. On drier surfaces, most of those issues evaporated along with the water, and the iON evo AS showcased some genuine athleticism and solid braking and was significantly more forgiving.
 

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They seem about the same as the original Michelin's (that we got 49,000 miles from). Maybe a tad bit quieter but negligible. My mileage/range seems to have dropped a little this year (maybe 5-8%) but I can't really say if that's the tires or just battery aging. Probably more the latter.

Overall there really doesn't seem to be much difference from the Michelins. They don't really feel any softer for a smoother ride, but I didn't expect them to be. I'd love a softer ride over bumps/ruts in the city, but we road trip so much (~10k miles/yr) that it's not worth giving up serious range to get it.

I think the SUVs are just what the Discount Tire (and Tire Rack, IIRC) said was the right tire for the Mach-E.
Thank you again. Choosing tires is such a tough thing. Any advice is most welcome.
 

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For reference, there is now some objective testing of Hankook Vs others. You may want to check out the link. One thing to keep in mind is wet traction = snow traction so if you live in a region that gets snow maybe consider something else.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=327

Hankook iON evo AS (Grand Touring All-Season, 235/40R19 96W)
  • What We Liked: It's good on the road, light on energy usage, and can perform when pushed in the dry.
  • What We'd Improve: Wet surfaces present a challenge.
  • Summary: A mixed bag that shines in the right situations while leading in efficiency.

Hankook iON evo AS
Not every tire in this test has been specifically built for EVs, but the iON evo AS, from the very composition of its compound to the sound-minimizing patterns molded into its grooves, is dedicated to serving as an electric vehicle tire. It was a bit mixed in practical application on the road, handling big hits well but failing to dampen smaller cracks and undulations, resulting in noticeable up-and-down movement. Noise too, was low volume over smooth surfaces and blended tones nicely, with only minor pitter patter or wind noises muted but noticeable. Even concrete noise only rose to moderate levels with a slightly higher pitch but without any strong resonant sound. The steering was nicely weighted once it was spurred into action, only suffering from some lethargy immediately off-center that made it feel momentarily behind the driver. With 263 Wh/mi, the iON evo AS was handily the most efficient tire tested.

In wet testing, the steering felt lighter, with less weight behind it than on-road, though it remained accurate and precise. Properly separating inputs and not trying to force braking or throttle during turns was important to keep it from drifting away or stepping out, which could be a concern for unprepared drivers during emergency situations. The lower overall traction also required a bit more lead time for braking, leaving little margin for error anywhere. On drier surfaces, most of those issues evaporated along with the water, and the iON evo AS showcased some genuine athleticism and solid braking and was significantly more forgiving.
Thank you for this review. I looked at that thread, but there was so much info, and so many disparate opinions, it's honestly hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Everyone likes something different in their tires, whether that's efficiency, braking, handling, wet/dry traction or ride. Or all of the above. :) I guess it's like going to a restaurant with a huge menu. Chances are they do some things OK, and most of the rest just fair. But you can please more people if you have options and boy do we have options. :) Thanks again. Now I'm really confused since I live in an area that does in fact get snow, though not a ton....most of the time. We had 5 measurable snowfalls last winter. But 3 or 4 of them were over 6"
 

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Thank you for this review. I looked at that thread, but there was so much info, and so many disparate opinions, it's honestly hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. Everyone likes something different in their tires, whether that's efficiency, braking, handling, wet/dry traction or ride. Or all of the above. :) I guess it's like going to a restaurant with a huge menu. Chances are they do some things OK, and most of the rest just fair. But you can please more people if you have options and boy do we have options. :) Thanks again. Now I'm really confused since I live in an area that does in fact get snow, though not a ton....most of the time. We had 5 measurable snowfalls last winter. But 3 or 4 of them were over 6"
When looking at tires decide what you want to improve over what you currently have. Ford made some good overall choices on what was installed factory. For example, do you want more precise steering, how important is cornering / handling, how important is braking performance in the wet and in the dry.? It's tread life important?

I wish the TR test included the Michelin Primacy A/S that the Premium, Select, and CR1 come with for reference.

The choices are hard because the differences are small.

Find out if they offer a trial period too. Most manufacturers will give you 30 days or 1000 miles.

For Snow / Wet
Michelin Cross Climate 2 / Vredestein Quatrac Pro+ are great choices

For Steeing / Handeling
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4, Conti DWS06+, A few Pirelli, Vredestein Hypertrac

For long wear
Typically mileage warranties are a good indication of what to expect.
 
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I put 255s on my GT and I think the sidwall looks pretty good. The tread is typical all season, and I would prefer a more aggressive tread as well.

I created my own thread on this tire, and I am in the process of measuring the efficiency of multiple highway drives with OBD data to measure exact efficiency differences. The mi/kWh reading in the car is not accurate enough, and is definitely off when I put taller tires on the car. I am checking actual battery capacity used before and after the tires.

I should have the final data readings next week. So far, it appears the Ions are more efficient than the stock GT tires. But that conclusion is premature at this point.
Why would you put a non-performance rated tire on a GT?
 

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Why would you put a non-performance rated tire on a GT?
Not sure if you are aware but Ford puts non-performance SUV touring all-season tires on the GT (Continental CrossContact RX) standard. It is an option to have the high performance summer tires. Some people cannot run summer tires as they cannot be driven in temps below 45˚.
 

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Not sure if you are aware but Ford puts non-performance SUV touring all-season tires on the GT (Continental CrossContact RX) standard. It is an option to have the high performance summer tires. Some people cannot run summer tires as they cannot be driven in temps below 45˚.
Right. I was thinking why not a UHP all-season?
 

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Right. I was thinking why not a UHP all-season?
Many here do run UHP all seasons. I don't know why Ford chose to not run a tire like that standard. ?‍♂
 

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Just pulled the trigger to change the Michelin OE tires on my car, only got 40K (Km) out of them Got these:

Hankook
ION EVO AS SUV



Great deals now; $150 from Quicklane, $100 from Hankook and $100 for Ford Employees!

Very happy so far, early days, about the same efficiency so far, a bit better ride


Ford Mustang Mach-E Hankook iON evo AS tire is impressive (a before and after test by owner) 1763741051927-g1
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