NACS to CCS extender?

[stevenschwartz]

Hi Folks,

Having waited months for my ford supplied NACS to CCS adapter, I wondered if anyone knew of a similar device that include a bit of a cable extender say 3 ft? I don't want to do this via a kludge, but an extra few feet would obviate the challenges of some Tesla charging cables not reaching the MachE port.

Steve

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[ChasingCoral]

You could buy one of these extension cables once they come to market:
https://a2zevshop.com/products/dc-n...pSKWrU0MarxBlsYvG_UzTYhkZQmXssuEvTWSLXYNi_IAY

 

[stevenschwartz]

You could buy one of these extension cables once they come to market:
https://a2zevshop.com/products/dc-n...pSKWrU0MarxBlsYvG_UzTYhkZQmXssuEvTWSLXYNi_IAY

Thanks - what do the engineer types thing - is this too many connectors for high power transfer?

 

[RickMachE]

Thanks - what do the engineer types thing - is this too many connectors for high power transfer?

A2Z knows what they are doing, and will be testing this extensively in the field before releasing it. That said, Tesla's chief engineer recently said no one should use extensions. Which is funny, because until recently Tesla was developing their own extension, and only recently removed that from their website.

 

[Sikkun]

A2Z knows what they are doing, and will be testing this extensively in the field before releasing it. That said, Tesla's chief engineer recently said no one should use extensions. Which is funny, because until recently Tesla was developing their own extension, and only recently removed that from their website.

And in response A2Z reached out to said engineer to see if he was willing to share his complaints and work with them.

Honestly seems like Tesla is butt hurt that A2Z was (is) going to massively beat them to market, like the adapters.

 

[stevenschwartz]

And in response A2Z reached out to said engineer to see if he was willing to share his complaints and work with them.

Honestly seems like Tesla is butt hurt that A2Z was (is) going to massively beat them to market, like the adapters.

What worries me, is if I use it for this purpose, I now have 3 connectors in this string - supercharger to extender, extender to NACS end of converter, CCS end of converter to car. That may be just too much.

 

[EasyPass]

No doubt that the design decisions that went into the Supercharger were "short sighted" (pun intended). Tesla also seemed to balk and hesitate with the deployment of the Magic Dock interface. For all their promotion about the greening of automobile infrastructure, they seem to do a fine job of painting circumstances into a corner and failing to put (all) end users first. For those reasons I feel little remorse for taking up two parking spaces at Supercharging stations, albeit inconvenient and frustrating.
"We all love standards. That's we have have so many of them." -- Anonymous

 

[Sikkun]

What worries me, is if I use it for this purpose, I now have 3 connectors in this string - supercharger to extender, extender to NACS end of converter, CCS end of converter to car. That may be just too much.

That is the setup A2Z was showing off on their Twitter, so they know that is the main use case.

It’ll be bulky, but personally when they pass their safety standards I’ll buy one.

Granted I would have made the cord with the option of CCS on one end so you don’t need the adapter….and maybe they will think of that also.

 

[stevenschwartz]

That is the setup A2Z was showing off on their Twitter, so they know that is the main use case.

It’ll be bulky, but personally when they pass their safety standards I’ll buy one.

Great answer - thanks so much. I tend not to take long trip outside of my RV, but for those times, it would be nice to remove one extra worry about charging. It is well worth a few hundred dollars to me.

 

[hybrid2bev]

Great answer - thanks so much. I tend not to take long trip outside of my RV, but for those times, it would be nice to remove one extra worry about charging. It is well worth a few hundred dollars to me.

I've charged at 5 different Supercharger locations and never felt the need to have a cable extender. The exsiting V3 cord can reach, no worries about charging here. Once the V4's roll out you for sure will not need a cable extenstion.

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

Hi Folks,

Having waited months for my ford supplied NACS to CCS adapter, I wondered if anyone knew of a similar device that include a bit of a cable extender say 3 ft? I don't want to do this via a kludge, but an extra few feet would obviate the challenges of some Tesla charging cables not reaching the MachE port.

Steve

You may not need the extender. I'm sure there are situations where one would be useful. That being said, I've had one of the 1st adapters and have been to a handful of Tesla stations and have alwarys been able to charge. Our front camera is super useful when having to pull in tight to the dispenser.

 

[DadzBoyz]

Tesla is installing longer cables as it rolls out new Superchargers and replaces old Superchargers.
They've also discouraged the use of cable extensions at Superchargers, and their reasoning is sound.
DC fast chargers (including Superchargers) move so much power through the cables that they become extremely and dangerously hot. To address this, most DC fast chargers use a liquid cooled cable. Any extension cable would not be liquid cooled and would become extremely hot. Not only should you not touch a cable that hot, the heat (resistance) could:
Damage the chargers standard plug/handle
Damage the Charger itself
Damage the extension cable and its plug/handle
Damage the charge port on the car

There are sensors in the charge equipment that report on the temperature and resistance. These are safety measures, and can/will shut down the charge session if things go outside established limits (which would most certainly occur with an extension cable).
Tesla has also indicated that they may use these sensors to determine if an extension cable has been connected to the charger and disable the session.

It's a very bad idea on DCFC/Superchargers. Please do not waste your money.

 

[Behoff]

I just got my adapter last week and had to try it out. I have to agree with 77 Stang Convertible - using the cameras I was able to get the nose between two chargers and there was plenty of slack to connect. The cable is a lot stiffer however, so twisting it to get it to attach was another thing!

the charging was seamless - started right away. But at $0.52 / kWh! I’m going to be saving that for dire situations.

 

[HuntingPudel]

<SNIP>
Our front camera is super useful when having to pull in tight to the dispenser.

What’s a front camera? ??

 

[Sikkun]

Tesla is installing longer cables as it rolls out new Superchargers and replaces old Superchargers.
They've also discouraged the use of cable extensions at Superchargers, and their reasoning is sound.
DC fast chargers (including Superchargers) move so much power through the cables that they become extremely and dangerously hot. To address this, most DC fast chargers use a liquid cooled cable. Any extension cable would not be liquid cooled and would become extremely hot. Not only should you not touch a cable that hot, the heat (resistance) could:
Damage the chargers standard plug/handle
Damage the Charger itself
Damage the extension cable and its plug/handle
Damage the charge port on the car

There are sensors in the charge equipment that report on the temperature and resistance. These are safety measures, and can/will shut down the charge session if things go outside established limits (which would most certainly occur with an extension cable).
Tesla has also indicated that they may use these sensors to determine if an extension cable has been connected to the charger and disable the session.

It's a very bad idea on DCFC/Superchargers. Please do not waste your money.

That wasn’t their reasoning when they announced they were going to sell an extension cord.

Just after their competition showed they have a working prototype.

Not suspicious at all.

Tesla also says not to use any adaptor except the one they can’t ship out on time.

Sucks to be beat to market.

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