Preconditioning HVB while driving if your on-board nav has expired?

[cheerioboy26]

So, will using gmaps in CarPlay precondition or no?

No, Android Auto is required. It's not supported in CarPlay.

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[Charge_Rob]

So, will using gmaps in CarPlay precondition or no?

No. Google Maps EV Routing for Android Auto is not available in CarPlay.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Just a thought - if Android Auto and Carplay both have the ability to turn on Preconditioning, why can't they make a simple app to turn it on manually?

Car Play doesn't precondition when navigating to a charger. That is limited to the Ford Nav and Google Nav while operating under Android Auto.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I am about to lose my subscription to Ford's on-board navigation. I don't usually use their nav system. I only use it on the road to precondition the HVB when I'm approaching a charging station. I assume there is no way to precondition if I don't have Ford's nav system?? You can't set a departure time while driving.

Even without the subscription, the on-board navigation will precondition while driving to a charger if it is in the navigation's database. Newer chargers may not get added.

Isn't this something Ford should remedy? I know there is a list of things they could easily remedy. In this case, it seems like Ford is black-mailing me to buy this little used feature. I don't take my car on long trips in cold weather because of the range loss so maybe this is not that big an issue for me. I will have to be careful when I take the car on a long trip in hot weather.

No, it is for you to remedy. If you want the system to be fully-featured, pay for the subscription. If you don't want all the features, don't pay.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Mine don’t give me a dirty look. They just start tearing the house apart.

Puahi didn’t tear up the house. We called her Princess for a reason. It was her house. She would however mete out discipline to the two boy cats when needed. (Or whenever she felt like it). Unless it was dinner time. Dinner ruled all. If they had something particularly tasty for dinner (shrimp on rare occasions) she’d usually manage to eat hers and then theirs. Because princess. Miss that cat. She was cool.

 

[emichnov]

No, it is for you to remedy. If you want the system to be fully-featured, pay for the subscription. If you don't want all the features, don't pay.

This is a little harsh. It is simple - this car will not be a fully functional driving vehicle unless we pay a subscription. This is a bad decision by Ford and will certainly build resentment. Paying a subscription fee or else you can't reasonably drive the car on long trips is not something that would have ever occurred to me when purchasing the vehicle.

 

[Adventureboy]

Car Play doesn't precondition when navigating to a charger. That is limited to the Ford Nav and Google Nav while operating under Android Auto.

I think you are missing my point. Carplay doesn't do this because they haven't implemented the function. Ford has given both Carplay and Android Auto the ability to initiate preconditioning. This means they both have the details of the Ford APIs required to do this. They can either implement this into their own mapping software (like Android Auto has) or create a simple app to manually trigger preconditioning (which no one has done). I'm suggesting this could be a simple app on either Carplay or Android Auto to trigger preconditioning, solving many of the issues around this.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I think you are missing my point. Carplay doesn't do this because they haven't implemented the function. Ford has given both Carplay and Android Auto the ability to initiate preconditioning. This means they both have the details of the Ford APIs required to do this. They can either implement this into their own mapping software (like Android Auto has) or create a simple app to manually trigger preconditioning (which no one has done). I'm suggesting this could be a simple app on either Carplay or Android Auto to trigger preconditioning, solving many of the issues around this.

It's actually more complicated than that because it gets into complex arrangements of privacy. Each company has its own privacy policies. Preconditioning requires Google or Apple to share position information about both destinations and the current location with Ford. Google is OK with that, Apple is not. To turn on preconditioning while underway, the truck has to determine you are inside the geofence around the destination and that the destination is a DC Fast Charger.

 

[Mache_Nor]

Just a thought - if Android Auto and Carplay both have the ability to turn on Preconditioning, why can't they make a simple app to turn it on manually?

We will have to wait for the second coming of Jesus and all the stars aligning in the sky to get the intern at Ford to manage such an godly task like adding a button that users could click to precondition on demand. Secondly, you are not ready to handle such powers at your fingertips! Poor Pony McPonyface would instant combust .

 

[Adventureboy]

It's actually more complicated than that because it gets into complex arrangements of privacy. Each company has its own privacy policies. Preconditioning requires Google or Apple to share position information about both destinations and the current location with Ford. Google is OK with that, Apple is not. To turn on preconditioning while underway, the truck has to determine you are inside the geofence around the destination and that the destination is a DC Fast Charger.

It doesn't have to be that complicated. The lack of user control is a problem that should be fixed. Apple or Carplay can determine the location and geofence requirements. The location need not be shared with the vehicle, but rather the simple requirements are met for preconditioning. If @Ford Motor Company doesn't allow this, they should simplify this process.

 

[ChasingCoral]

It doesn't have to be that complicated. The lack of user control is a problem that should be fixed. Apple or Carplay can determine the location and geofence requirements. The location need not be shared with the vehicle, but rather the simple requirements are met for preconditioning. If @Ford Motor Company doesn't allow this, they should simplify this process.

So you are saying you want to give Google and Apple an open port that allows them to control the operation of your High Voltage Battery? Would you like them to control your steering as well?

 

[MachE70]

I have a '22 GT and have not received update 10.1.0 which I understand includes Google Maps EV Routing for Android Auto. I am not aware that any 22's or 21's have received this update. Does anybody know if 22's or 21's will ever get this? I have not received any updates beyond BlueCruise 1.3 and I am wondering if Ford has decided updates are done for pre-'23 vehicles.

 

[AhardFSU]

Apple doesn't want to share the vehicle and user's location with Ford, but I'm pretty sure Apple would be more than happy to sell and share that data with one of their preferred data brokers. Another reason it doesn't make sense is that Ford can get the location of the vehicle if it needs to and the general location of the phone if Ford Pass installed on the phone and location permission is given. And Apple can create an opt-in option for location sharing if they're so concerned about sharing the location data with Ford.

 

[Snakebitten]

I have a '22 GT and have not received update 10.1.0 which I understand includes Google Maps EV Routing for Android Auto. I am not aware that any 22's or 21's have received this update. Does anybody know if 22's or 21's will ever get this? I have not received any updates beyond BlueCruise 1.3 and I am wondering if Ford has decided updates are done for pre-'23 vehicles.

You did receive BC 1.3, but not yet received 10.1.0.0, and you consider that evidence that Ford "is done" with any model year older than 1 year?

I realize OTA delivery of software updates leaves a lot of room for conjecture. But day in and day out we see VINs being looked up in FDRS/PTS and there's zero evidence that Ford has stopped developing software updates for any year model.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I have a '22 GT and have not received update 10.1.0 which I understand includes Google Maps EV Routing for Android Auto. I am not aware that any 22's or 21's have received this update. Does anybody know if 22's or 21's will ever get this? I have not received any updates beyond BlueCruise 1.3 and I am wondering if Ford has decided updates are done for pre-'23 vehicles.

Ford still says they are working to provide updates on 22s and 21s. Soon™

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