So, is the consensus the OEM tires still the best all season EV tire for this car?

[markboris]

The Pirelli mentioned in this thread come in a 245 so there is a few.

Do you have 245's? Would be nice to have an estimate of what the range hit is. Thinking wider you should have less slide more grip in corners. I may go with wider 245 when that time comes. They are 0.09" smaller diameter so speedometer is conservative and the side wall is the same (-0.045").

When I want a low rider I will drop them to 35 psi to cruise into town. Coming from a truck at 42 I have no problems with 39 psi or the suspension in this car. Feels solid so far. The long travel stress from the vibration of an ICE is not there so the bumps are minor. It was a bonus to learn how quite and less stressful travel could be.

I was only giving my opinion to the OP about the tire size he was inquiring about.

Are you asking me if I have 245's? If so, you probably haven't seen any of my posts or threads on tires and wheels. Right now I am running 275's but I've gone with tires as wide as 315's in the rear. ?

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[Shayne]

I was only giving my opinion to the OP about the tire size he was inquiring about.

Are you asking me if I have 245's? If so, you probably haven't seen any of my posts or threads on tires and wheels. Right now I am running 275's but I've gone with tires as wide as 315's in the rear. ?

You quoted my post not the OPer so I was confused and no I do not read a lot about wheels or rubber. So I assume your range is down with those. What's the % drop with 275?

I will be keeping the stock wheels as I have never seen a set that makes me go that much faster. Have you tested 245's? I find the 225 a bit skinny in corners for the weight.

 

[markboris]

You quoted my post not the OPer so I was confused and no I do not read a lot about wheels or rubber. So I assume your range is down with those. What's the % drop with 275?

I will be keeping the stock wheels as I have never seen a set that makes me go that much faster. Have you tested 245's? I find the 225 a bit skinny in corners for the weight.

Sorry about that. I had been replying on several other threads at the same time and sometimes get confused and or forget. Happens easily at my age.... ?

Unfortunately you're asking the wrong person about range/efficiency. I don't care what it is. I know with the different tires and sizes I've had it varies but I have no figures to report. As long as my car can go 175 miles in a single drive/trip, that I all I care about.

For me, in this car, I feel 245's should be the minimum size because of the weight and since you want to keep your wheels which are 7" wide, the 245/50/19 would be a good size keeping with the same diameter as OEM with a slightly wider tire. If it were me, and I was keeping those wheels, I would go one size up to 255/50/19 which is the widest tire suggested for that wheel size. That tire would be almost 1/2" taller, so only 1% difference in size compared to the 245's (or OEM 225's) so no issues with the AWD system which allows you to go as high as a 3% difference in diameter. However, from your stock 225's to the 255's, the tire is just over 1" wider which starts making a decent difference in traction and handling. Not to mention, there are many more choices in tires in the 255/50/19 size. Also the load index in that size is 107 allowing you to run an even lower tire pressure (35 psi) for a more comfortable ride while maintaining the proper load rating Ford recommends for the car. Of course if you want more efficiency out of them, run them at 39 psi or higher.

All that said, if you are really concerned about range, I would probably stick with the stock tires. If I did have to take a guess of range loss between your OEM tires and going to the widest 255/50/19's in an EV SPECIFIC tire, I bet you would not loose more than 5% MAX if even that. The Hankook ION EVO AS SUV, Goodyear ElectricDrive 2 and Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season are three popular EV tires in that size.

This is one of my wheel/tire threads and I've had more tires, wheels and now a newer Mach-E since I posted this almost 2 years ago. https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/my-staggered-wheel-tire-setups-info-specs-opinions.28097/

 

[intoMME]

The OEMs did not last very long on my car. Replaced them with Hankook iON EVO SUV . Hankooks are quieter and come with a treadwear warranty, so even if they don't last long, I'll get a credit toward my next tires.

 

[Jim54]

Just curious. It is time for new rubber for my Premium AWD. Are teh OEM tires still the best for wear, range, road noise, and overall driving experience or has something better been developed?


Thanks in advance.

I like the OEM's except for the snow performance. Just a little bit of snow and these things are awful. had a couple inches of snow and my Premium RWD was sliding backwards. Maybe should have got the AWD but I was range hunting. I will buy a set of dedicated snow tires for next season and it will not be a recurring issue. Love the car otherwise!

 

[Shayne]

Sorry about that. I had been replying on several other threads at the same time and sometimes get confused and or forget. Happens easily at my age.... ?

Unfortunately you're asking the wrong person about range/efficiency. I don't care what it is. I know with the different tires and sizes I've had it varies but I have no figures to report. As long as my car can go 175 miles in a single drive/trip, that I all I care about.

For me, in this car, I feel 245's should be the minimum size because of the weight and since you want to keep your wheels which are 7" wide, the 245/50/19 would be a good size keeping with the same diameter as OEM with a slightly wider tire. If it were me, and I was keeping those wheels, I would go one size up to 255/50/19 which is the widest tire suggested for that wheel size. That tire would be almost 1/2" taller, so only 1% difference in size compared to the 245's (or OEM 225's) so no issues with the AWD system which allows you to go as high as a 3% difference in diameter. However, from your stock 225's to the 255's, the tire is just over 1" wider which starts making a decent difference in traction and handling. Not to mention, there are many more choices in tires in the 255/50/19 size. Also the load index in that size is 107 allowing you to run an even lower tire pressure (35 psi) for a more comfortable ride while maintaining the proper load rating Ford recommends for the car. Of course if you want more efficiency out of them, run them at 39 psi or higher.

All that said, if you are really concerned about range, I would probably stick with the stock tires. If I did have to take a guess of range loss between your OEM tires and going to the widest 255/50/19's in an EV SPECIFIC tire, I bet you would not loose more than 5% MAX if even that. The Hankook ION EVO AS SUV, Goodyear ElectricDrive 2 and Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season are three popular EV tires in that size.

This is one of my wheel/tire threads and I've had more tires, wheels and now a newer Mach-E since I posted this almost 2 years ago. https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/my-staggered-wheel-tire-setups-info-specs-opinions.28097/

The range is OK now and I am traveling less and less. Have no concerns or great worries about the cars range it is good for travel. It is still fairly new and I was wondering if anyone has any finding yet. 5% on 10" wide tires sounds good and that size was not even on my radar but now is. Need to wear the shinny ones out first.

The OPer should now have the idea it is not only brand but size

 

[tuminatr]

When it comes to tread width it has very little effect on range and efficiency. I have tried a bunch of conversations and landed on a 255/50/19 summer tire and 245/50/19 for the winter.

I do have wheels that are very aerodynamic so the range is slightly better with either 19" configuration compared to my stock 245/45/20 Pirelli tires.

For me this is the Goldilocks better traction and more efficient.

 

[tuminatr]

I like the OEM's except for the snow performance. Just a little bit of snow and these things are awful. had a couple inches of snow and my Premium RWD was sliding backwards. Maybe should have got the AWD but I was range hunting. I will buy a set of dedicated snow tires for next season and it will not be a recurring issue. Love the car otherwise!

You may want to consider something like the Quatrac Pro+. It performs similarly to a dedicated winter tire as it has the three-peak mountain snowflake rating. That's the designated winter tire certification. However, these can be driven all year long and are efficient, quiet, and agile.

I live in Minnesota and can attest that the snow and wet traction are much better than the factory tires. And when it comes to RWD traction my neighbor installed these on his Chrysler 300c RWD and it now gets around great in the snow

 

[StuMc]

Greetings to you all (particulary markbois and tuminatr). Its my first post here being a brand new owner of a 2024 AWD premium. My car is the vapor blue with bronze colored wheels. First off, I can't believe there was a $1300 upcharge for these wheels. As far as I can tell, they are the same as the stock 19" premium wheels except for a change in paint color from black to bronze. I have done a lot of research and have determined that these 2024 wheels are 19x7.5, not 19x7.0. That 1/2" makes a difference for me when determining the best tire size to meet my particular needs.

There are a lot of contrary opinions on here, so I very much appreciate the real world, hands on opinions expressed by owners like markbois and tuminatr. I'm looking to put a wider all weather tire on my 7.5" wheels both for the looks and for the performance (I'm in Watertown, NY, aka Snowtown USA). My favorite choice, the new Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive, is not available in a 245/50R19, but is available in a 255/50R19. Now, some guys are saying the widest tire you can put on these wheels (assuming they are 7") is a 245 and anything bigger will have unsightly bulge and may rub. I'm looking at the Tire Rack stats and it clearly states that a 255/50 will work on a 7-9" rim. The stated section width and tread width on a 255 tire is measured on an 8" rim, so I'm thinking, heck, a 7.5" rim should be fine. I'm scratching my head and wondering where the naysayers are getting their information from (I'm sure they mean well, but you know what they say about opinions).

Oh, so perhaps it's not so much the fit on the rim, but the room inside the shock and wheel well. I don't want to read speculations or a hypothesis on this point. I want the hard facts that come from actual experience. So my hat is off, and I want to express my appreciation to markbois and tuminatr for sharing their actual experience running 255/50 or wider tires. I now have good confidence in purchasing a set of 255/50R19 Pirelli WeatherActives.

Any other experiences with this size tire on the 2024 premium wheels will of course be welcomed and appreciated. This old goat has already learned allot from this community and I will definitely report back with my own experience.

All the Best,

Stu

 

[tuminatr]

Greetings to you all (particulary markbois and tuminatr). Its my first post here being a brand new owner of a 2024 AWD premium. My car is the vapor blue with bronze colored wheels. First off, I can't believe there was a $1300 upcharge for these wheels. As far as I can tell, they are the same as the stock 19" premium wheels except for a change in paint color from black to bronze. I have done a lot of reseearch and have determined that these 2024 wheels are 19x7.5, not 19x7.0. That 1/2" makes a difference for me when determining the best tire size to meet my particular needs.

There are a lot of contrary opinions on here, so I very much appreciate the real world, hands on opinions expressed by owners like markbois and tuminatr. I'm looking to put a wider all weather tire on my 7.5" wheels both for the looks and for the performance (I'm in Watertown, NY, aka Snowtown USA). My favorite choice, the new Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive, is not available in a 245/50R19, but is available in a 255/50R19. Now, some guys are saying the widest tire you can put on these wheels (assuming they are 7") is a 245 and anything bigger will have unsightly bulge and may rub. I'm looking at the Tire Rack stats and it clearly states that a 255/50 will work on a 7-9" rim. The stated section width and tread width on a 255 tire is measured on an 8" rim, so I'm thinking, heck, a 7.5" rim should be fine. I'm scratching my head and wondering where the naysayers are getting their information from (I'm sure they mean well, but you know what they say about opinions).

Oh, so perhaps it's not so much the fit on the rim, but the room inside the shock and wheel well. I don't want to read speculations or a hypothesis on this point. I want the hard facts that come from actual experience. So my hat is off, and I want to express my appreciation to markbois and tuminatr for sharing their actual experience running 255/50 or wider tires. I now have good confidence in purchasing a set of 255/50R19 Pirelli WeatherActives.

Any other experiences with this size tire on the 2024 premium wheels will of course be welcomed and appreciated. This old goat has already learned allot from this community and I will definitely report back with my own experience.

All the Best,

Stu

Here is my summer setup 255/50/19 on 19x8" +42 Volvo XC90 rims. The 255/50/19 should have plenty of room in the wheel well. Here is the info from Tire Rack.com on the Pirelli it says rim width 7-9" so indeed the 7.5" rim would work.

Here is my winter setup 245/50/19 Quatrac Pro+ and they are wonderful. The advantage to the Vred is you can 4 tire rotate, directional tires like the Cross Climate, Weatheready 2, and Weatheractive can only be rotated front to back. I have talked to a few people who have run the Pirelli and they liked them too.

My first MME was a 21 Premium Job 1 car with 245/50/19 tires installed with no issues. In either of the sizes mentioned you can safely lower the tire pressure if you want to give the car a softer ride.

OEM Size (225/55R19 XL) Load Capacity: 1816 lbs. @ 39 psi.

New Size (255/50R19 XL) Load Capacity: 1855 lbs. @ 35 psi.

New Size (245/50R19 XL) Load Capacity: 1840 lbs. @ 37 psi.

 

[StuMc]

Here is my summer setup 255/50/19 on 19x8" +42 Volvo XC90 rims. The 255/50/19 should have plenty of room in the wheel well. I don't have tech data on the Pirelli but in the QTP+ it says an acceptable rim size is between 7"-9" I would assume the Pirelli would be the same so 7.5 would work.

Here is my winter setup 245/50/19 Quatrac Pro+ and they are wonderful. The advantage to the Vred is you can 4 tire rotate, directional tires like the Cross Climate, Weatheready 2, and Weatheractive can only be rotated front to back. I have talked to a few people who have run the Pirelli and they liked them too.

My first MME was a 21 Premium Job 1 car with 245/50/19 tires installed with no issues. In either of the sizes mentioned you can safely lower the tire pressure if you want to give the car a softer ride.

OEM Size (225/55R19 XL) Load Capacity: 1816 lbs. @ 39 psi.

New Size (255/50R19 XL) Load Capacity: 1855 lbs. @ 35 psi.

New Size (245/50R19 XL) Load Capacity: 1840 lbs. @ 37 psi.

The Vredestein QTP+ was definitely in the running, but unfortunately it was unavailable in the 245/50R19 until May, so I started looking at other all weather rated tires. It appeared that the WeatherActive had better snow and ice performance and may be quieter and have longer wear too (60K warranty vs. 50K), so my affections were swayed. Now that you mention it and I take another look at the QTP+, I see some interesting things if I go to the 255 in the Vred. In this size (which IS available) the Vred is 32lbs., has a section width of 10.4 and a tread width of 7.8". In comparison, the WeatherActive is 34lbs, also has a section width of 10.4", but the tread width is a whopping 8.9." That extra inch in tread width might possibly be problematic. In the QTP+ the tread width is nearly identical between the 245 and 255. The only differences is the 0.4" increase in section width. I also like to fully rotate my tires, so now you really have me thinking again. Much obliged, my Mach-e friend.

 

[markboris]

Greetings to you all (particulary markbois and tuminatr). Its my first post here being a brand new owner of a 2024 AWD premium. My car is the vapor blue with bronze colored wheels. First off, I can't believe there was a $1300 upcharge for these wheels. As far as I can tell, they are the same as the stock 19" premium wheels except for a change in paint color from black to bronze. I have done a lot of research and have determined that these 2024 wheels are 19x7.5, not 19x7.0. That 1/2" makes a difference for me when determining the best tire size to meet my particular needs.

There are a lot of contrary opinions on here, so I very much appreciate the real world, hands on opinions expressed by owners like markbois and tuminatr. I'm looking to put a wider all weather tire on my 7.5" wheels both for the looks and for the performance (I'm in Watertown, NY, aka Snowtown USA). My favorite choice, the new Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive, is not available in a 245/50R19, but is available in a 255/50R19. Now, some guys are saying the widest tire you can put on these wheels (assuming they are 7") is a 245 and anything bigger will have unsightly bulge and may rub. I'm looking at the Tire Rack stats and it clearly states that a 255/50 will work on a 7-9" rim. The stated section width and tread width on a 255 tire is measured on an 8" rim, so I'm thinking, heck, a 7.5" rim should be fine. I'm scratching my head and wondering where the naysayers are getting their information from (I'm sure they mean well, but you know what they say about opinions).

Oh, so perhaps it's not so much the fit on the rim, but the room inside the shock and wheel well. I don't want to read speculations or a hypothesis on this point. I want the hard facts that come from actual experience. So my hat is off, and I want to express my appreciation to markbois and tuminatr for sharing their actual experience running 255/50 or wider tires. I now have good confidence in purchasing a set of 255/50R19 Pirelli WeatherActives.

Any other experiences with this size tire on the 2024 premium wheels will of course be welcomed and appreciated. This old goat has already learned allot from this community and I will definitely report back with my own experience.

All the Best,

Stu

Hi Stu, I don't have any more to add than Brian did but if you have more questions please let us know. Brian is much more familiar with the tire sizes you are interested in than I am.

I've never ran 19" whees/tires on my Mach-E's. I ran 20" on the Premium and running 20" winters and 21" summers on my GT. Like Brian said, you won't have any fitment issues with the sizes you are looking at. Plenty of room between the tire and suspension front and rear. I also will go along with him on the tires. The Quatrac Pro+, CrossClimate 2 and WeatherActive 2 are all great tires in that segment but the QP+ has the advantage of being 4 tire rotate since they are not directional if that is something you are interested in. The other thing about the QP+ is they are slightly quieter than the CrossClimate 2 and smoother riding than the WeatherActive 2.

 

[StuMc]

Hi Stu, I don't have any more to add than Brian did but if you have more questions please let us know. Brian is much more familiar with the tire sizes you are interested in than I am.

I've never ran 19" whees/tires on my Mach-E's. I ran 20" on the Premium and running 20" winters and 21" summers on my GT. Like Brian said, you won't have any fitment issues with the sizes you are looking at. Plenty of room between the tire and suspension front and rear. I also will go along with him on the tires. The Quatrac Pro+, CrossClimate 2 and WeatherActive 2 are all great tires in that segment but the QP+ has the advantage of being 4 tire rotate since they are not directional if that is something you are interested in. The other thing about the QP+ is they are slightly quieter than the CrossClimate 2 and smoother riding than the WeatherActive 2.

Thanks Mark. You guys are turning my affections once more to the Vredesteins. I know I can't go wrong there.

 

[HughJazzol]

good morning
Thanks for the very informative thread, very common to this website. But, as usual, it has a lot of good information. I ask this because I've seen posts where people have installed different tire sizes in the back. Nice, but then when the tire rotations come, how is that done with the different sizes?

I summarize some size information for my 24 Premium RWD in Miami with normal driving that doesn't require anything fancy; all season or summer tires should work fine. I don't need them yet, but will one day. The question of "which brand" has a longer answer and requires reading the previous posts.

But, for sizes:
Summary:
225/55R19 - OEM or stock size on the car.
Wider 245/50/19 - a good size to get and easily found.
255/50/19 - a better option but there are fewer selections available.

Did I say this right?

Thank you

 

[markboris]

good morning
Thanks for the very informative thread, very common to this website. But, as usual, it has a lot of good information. I ask this because I've seen posts where people have installed different tire sizes in the back. Nice, but then when the tire rotations come, how is that done with the different sizes?

I summarize some size information for my 24 Premium RWD in Miami with normal driving that doesn't require anything fancy; all season or summer tires should work fine. I don't need them yet, but will one day. The question of "which brand" has a longer answer and requires reading the previous posts.

But, for sizes:
Summary:
225/55R19 - OEM or stock size on the car.
Wider 245/50/19 - a good size to get and easily found.
255/50/19 - a better option but there are fewer selections available.

Did I say this right?

Thank you

Yes when you have a staggered setup (larger tires in rear) you cannot rotate your tires front to back.

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