Other Methods of Entry Into Mach-E : Phone as Key (Paak) and Door Code

[Kamuelaflyer]

Also do we know if Ford will autolock? I know you can manually lock it by touching the door button, but can you just walk away like a Tesla?

That's hardly a new feature nor is it unique to Tesla. My 15-year-old Tacoma does that.

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[BlueMach]

I'm in Las Vegas... If you don't use a fob, how do you Valet Park?

Seem like a minor point, but I can name many occasions where you must valet park.

There's always a choice. I don't let anyone drive any of my cars, no matter what.

 

[janitorjim]

What the heck someone already messed that car up?!?!

that is what I thought but appears to just be dirt

 

[lwilliams0514]

I'm in Las Vegas... If you don't use a fob, how do you Valet Park?

Seem like a minor point, but I can name many occasions where you must valet park.

Now THIS is a good question! I dont know the answer.....

 

[lwilliams0514]

I'm in Las Vegas... If you don't use a fob, how do you Valet Park?

Seem like a minor point, but I can name many occasions where you must valet park.

Ok after a little digging.... you can set Valet mode and that will give a temporary code to use to start the car. Give that to the Valet and they can get in and start and move the car. Once your done you can turn it off when the car detects the PAAK.

Quoted from the Owner's Manual:

Using the Valet Mode

1. Press Settings on the touchscreen.

1. Press Valet Mode.

Note: Have your Backup Start Passcode completely setup before using Valet Mode.
Note: Once the system detects a valid Phone as a Key, the temporary passcode displays in both the touchscreen and mobile app. If the system does not detect a valid Phone as a Key, it prompts you to enter your Backup Start Passcode. Once validated, the temporary passcode displays on the touchscreen.

1. Enter the first five digits of the passcode on the keyless entry keypad to unlock your vehicle.

1. Enter the eight-digit passcode on the touchscreen to start and drive your vehicle.

To disable Valet Mode, press Exit Valet Mode on the touchscreen. Once the system detects an authorized Phone as a Key, it disables. If the system does not detect a valid Phone as a Key, it prompts you to enter your Backup Start Passcode. Once validated, Valet Mode disables.

 

[eltonlin]

Ok after a little digging.... you can set Valet mode and that will give a temporary code to use to start the car. Give that to the Valet and they can get in and start and move the car. Once your done you can turn it off when the car detects the PAAK.

Quoted from the Owner's Manual:

Using the Valet Mode

1. Press Settings on the touchscreen.
2. Press Valet Mode.

Note: Have your Backup Start Passcode completely setup before using Valet Mode.
Note: Once the system detects a valid Phone as a Key, the temporary passcode displays in both the touchscreen and mobile app. If the system does not detect a valid Phone as a Key, it prompts you to enter your Backup Start Passcode. Once validated, the temporary passcode displays on the touchscreen.

1. Enter the first five digits of the passcode on the keyless entry keypad to unlock your vehicle.
2. Enter the eight-digit passcode on the touchscreen to start and drive your vehicle.

To disable Valet Mode, press Exit Valet Mode on the touchscreen. Once the system detects an authorized Phone as a Key, it disables. If the system does not detect a valid Phone as a Key, it prompts you to enter your Backup Start Passcode. Once validated, Valet Mode disables.

I read that too and was trying to understand it…. So we would have to give the Valet both the passcode for the door, as well as the passcode to start the vehicle? Would we all make a laminated card with this and put it in our wallets just for the valet?

Or, there’s this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch/a6iW-8xPw3k

 

[RyZt]

I read that too and was trying to understand it…. So we would have to give the Valet both the passcode for the door, as well as the passcode to start the vehicle? Would we all make a laminated card with this and put it in our wallets just for the valet?

Or, there’s this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch/a6iW-8xPw3k

I wonder if it's feasible to let the valet write down that code on the valet ticket. How well does valet react to such an arrangement? Has any one tried?

By the way, this is one area where I think key card is really convenient. The key code approach is a little less convenient. But I only valet once in a while, when I don't have other choices.

 

[generaltso]

So we would have to give the Valet both the passcode for the door, as well as the passcode to start the vehicle?

It's a single 8-digit passcode. They would enter the first 5 digits of the code to unlock the door and the full 8 digits on the screen to start it. But if I was going somewhere that I knew would be valet, I would just bring the key fob with me to avoid confusion.

 

[BlueMach]

that is what I thought but appears to just be dirt

It's where there's a "protective" film applied at the factory, I bet the film peeled in that area and dirt got caught between it and the car.

 

[JonathanEzor]

I am just learning that the MME will only come with one key. The reason for this is that you can use Phone as a Key and the door code to get in and drive the car. This is a short video that shows that...

I think that video missed the ability to use FordPass' Web site to remotely unlock the car, assuming the battery were charged. At least I know My Ford Mobile has that capability, so I expect FordPass does/will as well. {Jonathan}

 

[All Hat No Cattle]

There's always a choice. I don't let anyone drive any of my cars, no matter what.

LOL, there is always that choice, if you don't mind limiting your style of life.

For example, if you happen to start your Alaska cruise from San Francisco, you can drive there and utilize the cruise parking, within walking distance of the ship. I have.

But, they will drive the cruise parking vehicles into a separate parking area, and pack them in like sardines.

10 days later, you show up, and they deliver to you a freshly washed vehicle, and off you go.

As for the valet procedure in the Manual, good luck with that.

Just give them the freaking fob. In Vegas they park Ferrari's, Maserati's, etc. They won't dent your MME, LOL.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

you could always keep a key fob in the glove compartment in a Faraday bag so you always have it but you have to make the effort to get it out. There's plenty of options on Big River etc. for this.

 

[eltonlin]

you could always keep a key fob in the glove compartment in a Faraday bag so you always have it but you have to make the effort to get it out. There's plenty of options on Big River etc. for this.

IS the glove compartment lockable? I know locking your fob in the glove compartment seems nonsensical, but my concern is break-ins - especially here in San Francisco where it's rampant.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

IS the glove compartment lockable? I know locking your fob in the glove compartment seems nonsensical, but my concern is break-ins - especially here in San Francisco where it's rampant.

I don't think so - it's absolutely a risky scenario. I probably should have had that as a disclaimer.

It may be that there is a place you can hide the fob-in-a-bag well enough that it won't be easily found - the glove compartment doesn't count. I don't have my car yet to play around and see.

I think the "valet problem" as it were is real. Although the process is documented, it feels just tedious enough that I don't know if the "teenager that thinks hooning your rental car at over 50 in a 35 while on the phone with his girlfriend" (*) could handle it.

that said I hate valet parking with a passion. I know some places require it but whenever I can self-park, I do. Less hassle, less time lost waiting, less cost, and higher trust.

So I am trying to think of a balance that doesn't involve me carrying the fob in my pocket all the time. In winter, it's just in my coat pocket and I don't worry about it, but in summer, it can be a real PITA to carry it. (**)

(*) I've mentioned this true story on here before.
(**) FIRST WORLD PROBLEM

 

[lwilliams0514]

you could always keep a key fob in the glove compartment in a Faraday bag so you always have it but you have to make the effort to get it out. There's plenty of options on Big River etc. for this.

Never thought about the Faraday bag option! That is a great suggestion so that the car doesn't give you the obnoxious double beep letting you know you left your key in the car lol.

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