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If your order is scheduled for production, you have a VIN assigned, and the VIN is going to be specific to the 2021 model year. The only way I could potentially see an order now converted to 2022 is if you still don't have a scheduled for production date before 11/29.
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When they say "order banks open", does that mean you can order the GT as well, or do they stagger the order dates for the different models?
 

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When they say "order banks open", does that mean you can order the GT as well, or do they stagger the order dates for the different models?

Should be all models unless they put restrictions in place.
 

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When the original orders opened, could you order all flavors of the MME at the same time?
No. 2021 GT and GT-PE ordering officially opened on 4/28, but some people were able to successfully convert their reservations into orders on 4/27. I believe the other sub-models opened for ordering in November of 2020 (someone correct me on that).
 


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2021 Mach-E FINAL ORDERS DUE: 9/3/21
2022 Mach-E ORDER BANKS OPEN: 9/27/21
2022 Mach-E SCHEDULING BEGINS: 10/21/21
2022 Mach-E PRODUCTION START: 11/29/21

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Do you know by chance if this has changed since the 6 week delay?
 

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Do you know by chance if this has changed since the 6 week delay?
Pretty sure that the “chip delay” will not affect Ford’s order opening and closing dates. I don’t know this for sure but it seems logical.
 

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Pretty sure that the “chip delay” will not affect Ford’s order opening and closing dates. I don’t know this for sure but it seems logical.
Ive been hearing mix things. so wanted more clarification from anyone with accurate insider information.
 

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Anyone know if the order guide will be out before the order bank opens?
 

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2021 Mach-E FINAL ORDERS DUE: 9/3/21
2022 Mach-E ORDER BANKS OPEN: 9/27/21
2022 Mach-E SCHEDULING BEGINS: 10/21/21
2022 Mach-E PRODUCTION START: 11/29/21

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Speculating (out of ignorance) that the "final orders due date" is the order from the dealer to Ford, which would be right after the allocation is made. If I am correct, then that would mean if the production date is not allocated this week (in time for the dealer to submit the order to Ford by 9/3/2021), then whatever is eventually delivered won't be model year 2021. Am I reading this correctly?
 

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For those of you wondering about the ordered 2021 model being upgraded to a 2022 model, don't hold your breath. I ordered thru my local dealer that I have been doing business with the past 20 years and he has verified an order for a 2021 model year vehicle will be delivered as a 2021 model year vehicle, even if its delivered after Jan 1st 2022.
Also for those of you who plan to cancel your order and wait until the 2022 model year vehicles, your order is still going to be built and sent to the dealer, a plus for them so now they have inventory to sell!

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This is false. A dealer has the option to cancel any order if it is unscheduled. Once it is scheduled they cannot cancel Source: I have personally ordered cars in Ford's WEBDO system.

Ford traditionally will do a final production schedule to "balance out" the model year. Once that happens unscheduled orders are no longer produced for that model year and are effectively null. There most likely will be little downtime to switch over the line for 22 so most likely they will build 21's until 11/26 and then 22's will roll off the line on 11/29. In normal times, retail orders that were not selected for scheduling would not be built. However this being a signature car for Ford in abnormal times, they may give folks an option to roll over to a 22 at the same price or they may not. We really dont know.
 
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The only things that should change that I can see would be the price and the model year, the rest should be the same. There is no way Ford has enough time to make any real modifications or secure new parts in time. However Ford did announce that MachE production will increase by 70% so that should mean wait times go down. The only factor is popularity (demand) and supply chain.
Ford could make some material changes to save weight and increase range. Example would be what the engineers stated in Sandy Murano's video... Switch some tubing from rubber to plastic, eliminate one of the coolant pumps, go from two bottles to one. They could also be planning better battery management software (which should be available to 2021s) Hell, even changing the tire brand can impact range. What we do know from the video with the Ford engineer is that they plan a range improvement in 2022 models.
 

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Speculating (out of ignorance) that the "final orders due date" is the order from the dealer to Ford, which would be right after the allocation is made. If I am correct, then that would mean if the production date is not allocated this week (in time for the dealer to submit the order to Ford by 9/3/2021), then whatever is eventually delivered won't be model year 2021. Am I reading this correctly?
I would not be too hung up on allocation. When Ford does the monthly allocations, they generally will schedule Retail orders before stock orders to a point. There is normally a percentage that is held back for stock orders. Dealers can (and mostly do) choose to use their allocated stock orders to take care of retail order customers.

Allocation and ordering is a very, very complex process. For example, lets say Ford can build 5,000 Mach-E's in a month. In this case the decision is made that 4,000 of them will be retail and 1,000 will be stock.

Of those 5,000 orders Ford will analyze the supply chain and figure our what trims they can build and how many of each. They may have only 800 extended range batteries available or maybe they only have 500 panoramic roofs and so on. Once the list of constraints is finalized, Ford will select the retail orders that they can build (normally on a FIFO basis) They will then allocate the remaining production to stock orders by trim level. If your dealer is allocated a stock unit that fits your build, then they can prioritize that one for scheduling.

So the reason why someone who ordered in April waits longer than someone who ordered in June would be because of the specific build that they requested vs the availability of the parts to make that build and the number of retail orders in line ahead of that person. Yes, Paint can be a constraint, hell, even a front license plate bracket can be a constraint if your state requires it.
 

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Not sure how good this website is....it provides some different dates. It has an "updated" date of 27 August 2021. It would be nice to know that all the 2021 MY would be produced by 10/23/2021....maybe just a pipe dream!

https://www.arifleet.com/resources/updates-projections/build-out-start-up-dates/


Vehicle Line2021MY Fleet Final Order Due Date2021MY Last Day to Spec Change / Cancel2021MY Balance Out Date (Final Prod. Date)2022MY Order Bank Open Date2022MY Scheduling Begins2022MY Job #1 Date (Prod. startup date)


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10/1/202110/14/202110/23/202110/11/202111/18/20211/3/2021
 

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Not sure how good this website is....it provides some different dates. It has an "updated" date of 27 August 2021. It would be nice to know that all the 2021 MY would be produced by 10/23/2021....maybe just a pipe dream!

https://www.arifleet.com/resources/updates-projections/build-out-start-up-dates/


Vehicle Line2021MY Fleet Final Order Due Date2021MY Last Day to Spec Change / Cancel2021MY Balance Out Date (Final Prod. Date)2022MY Order Bank Open Date2022MY Scheduling Begins2022MY Job #1 Date (Prod. startup date)


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10/1/202110/14/202110/23/202110/11/202111/18/20211/3/2021
So if that's correct they will make zero MMEs from 10/23-1/3?
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