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Looking into the specs of the vehicle, we should be able to see if the ER battery is actually a different size or if the 3kW difference between the GT and others are software locked. The VIN you gave to me was a GT.

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Here’s a premium: 3FMTK3S54SMA04646.
I was lazy and referenced one that I looked up before.
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Lifetime BC only on a lease? Sounds like 3 years of BC to me.

Become a Ford tech or pay the crazy amount for PTS and FDRS, along with the hardware needed. 1002% counter productive for a single person unless they just buy the 3 day FDRS, PTS is only Ford technicians if I remember right.
72 hour PTS license is $26.34

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Here’s a premium: 3FMTK3S54SMA04646.
I was lazy and referenced one that I looked up before.
That one isn't built yet either.

Ford Mustang Mach-E 2025 Mach-E Order Guide 1000032817


It also specs a different traction battery than the GT. Could be a standard range, though.

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Or it’s a typo, like they’ve had in every order guide every year. 2021 they told us the passenger seat was manual and the drivers seat was power.

The guide also had the size of the Brembo brakes on a GT and GTPE…. Way off.

2023 the website said the 360 camera was $1900 and the order guide said it was free.

Sure, it’s possible they lowered capacity. But my first question would be- Why?

With the history of typos with Ford, it doesn’t surprise me that this would be another one.
Cost reduction. And their telemetry told them customers weren’t using the HVB so they replaced it with more heat pumps ???
 

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My 2 guesses are cost cutting and Ford believes that overall range will be the same or better with added cooling seats and heat pump on a smaller usable battery.

Or a combination of both. The Flash model of the Lightning is getting a smaller extended range battery as well.

Another could be that the battery health isn't trending the way they want on the higher usable battery. If you can believe the way Ford tracks battery health, My Mach-E has significant overall lower health than my Lightning, with roughly half the miles on it.

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What app are you getting that data from?
 


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wow, maintaining the 150 kW charging limit in 2025…
 

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Very few second hand owners will care about advanced features AND cough up $500 a year to get them.
True. But I did a couple years back, I'm sure second hand dealers will start selling cars as lifetime BC with double the actual cost at some point.

72 hour PTS license is $26.34
Oh KNICE! That's reasonable and obtainable.

• Includes Fast Charging Adapter (NACS)
I guess Elmo didn't offer to make the charge port yet. :(
 

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That one isn't built yet either.

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It also specs a different traction battery than the GT. Could be a standard range, though.

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Oh, can you look at 25 Rally 3FMTK4SX3SMA06234 - build week of Feb 17th? I was scheduled to week on 12/5 per text from Ford. So far I have no other info.
 
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Oh, can you look at 25 Rally 3FMTK4SX3SMA06234 - build week of Feb 17th? I was scheduled to week on 12/5 per text from Ford. So far I have no other info.
You have the latest information.
 

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My 2 guesses are cost cutting and Ford believes that overall range will be the same or better with added cooling seats and heat pump on a smaller usable battery.

Or a combination of both. The Flash model of the Lightning is getting a smaller extended range battery as well.

Another could be that the battery health isn't trending the way they want on the higher usable battery. If you can believe the way Ford tracks battery health, My Mach-E has significant overall lower health than my Lightning, with roughly half the miles on it.

Mach-E
Mach-E SOH.jpg


Lightning:
Lightning SOH.jpg
hey where did you get this information? i looks like the ford website but mine doesnt showing up like that...
 

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I really don’t understand the logic here. All OEMs have been selling 2025s for several months now. There are a few Ford 2024s still in transit. And virtually all in store inventory is 2024s. The Ford web site still shows 2024 information.

Why does Ford do this? It contributes a loss in value for something that is paperwork related. Does anyone know?
You are mistaken if you think all manufacturers start making all their 2025 models in late-Summer/early-Fall. There is no mandatory start of manufacturing for a model year. I've seen Toyota not release a model year vehicle until well into the calendar year for that model. And I've seen them do a very early release, like June or July, for the following calendar year (i.e released in mid 2003 but called a 2004 model).


2022 Model Year for the Mach-E didn't start production until January 3rd, 2022. But the 2023 Model year started production in November of 2022.
 
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