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So just because the car accepts the same amount of power doesn’t mean that it generates the same mileage per unit electricity. The 32A on the Mach-E generates around 22mi of range per hour, since the 99kW battery is 300miles of range.

If the Mach-E had the same size battery as the Model 3 then yes it would be 30.
This reply is not making sense. Battery size does not make a difference. The on Board charge does and both the Model 3 and Mach E have the same capacity at 11.5kWh. The Mach E has a larger HVB size so it will take longer to "fill up" but will charge at the same range under the same conditions at a level 2 charger.
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This reply is not making sense. Battery size does not make a difference. The on Board charge does and both the Model 3 and Mach E have the same capacity at 11.5kWh. The Mach E has a larger HVB size so it will take longer to "fill up" but will charge at the same range under the same conditions at a level 2 charger.
Yeah but it’s less range per kWh. It adds power at the same rate but doesn’t go as far per kWh.
 

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Yeah but it’s less range per kWh. It adds power at the same rate but doesn’t go as far per kWh.
At this time we are guessing about x per kWh factors. No official ratings. Charging isn't like that. Clipper Crerk website details range per hour of charging at different amps. And different on board charging capacities.
 

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At this time we are guessing about x per kWh factors. No official ratings. Charging isn't like that. Clipper Crerk website details range per hour of charging at different amps. And different on board charging capacities.
https://electrek.co/wp-content/uplo...2020-02-06-at-6.00.58-AM.jpg?resize=1428,1000

Well the model Y is 28kWh/100 mi. If we assume a 10% reserve on the publicized then it still comes out to 29.6kWh. Guess we’ll have to see what the final EPA range numbers are.
 

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At this time we are guessing about x per kWh factors. No official ratings. Charging isn't like that. Clipper Crerk website details range per hour of charging at different amps. And different on board charging capacities.
If the mi/kwhr usage of the mach e is higher, then the number of miles you get per kwhr of charging will be lower. And, you do realize this is his area of expertise, right?
 


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If the mi/kwhr usage of the mach e is higher, then the number of miles you get per kwhr of charging will be lower. And, you do realize this is his area of expertise, right?
I mean he’s right the EPA estimates aren’t out yet.
 

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I read that a few days ago. It's based on that AMA post we talked about last week. It was interesting to see this guy interpret some of it totally differently than we did.
 

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The engineer says that the maximum fast-charging rate for the Mach-E will eventually be 350 kW, though he provides no timeline for this.
Level 3 charging could be "fast". https://insideevs.com/news/397287/ford-mustang-mach-e-insider-info/
Wish that were true! I'm still thinking it's 150kW and that if they wired it for up to 350kW, they would have said it was 800V architecture at the reveal. As a 400V system, 350kW wiring would be a waste cuz you'd never use it.

Maybe just maybe, they'll throw us a bone and make it 175kW for bragging rights and enable a helluva charge curve with it holding 140-150kW up to say 55-60% SoC.

But a boy can dream...
 

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The engineer says that the maximum fast-charging rate for the Mach-E will eventually be 350 kW, though he provides no timeline for this.
Level 3 charging could be "fast". https://insideevs.com/news/397287/ford-mustang-mach-e-insider-info/
I get the desire for better specs than what were revealed, but you keep spinning yourself up with suppositions and maybes - and you are very likely to be extremely disappointed. That is based on an interpretation of an opinion of a cryptic non-answer on a blog. It's "you can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor" all over again.
 

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50 amp breaker at 80% is 40 amp continuous. 40 amp continuous is greater than 32 amp continuous which provides 25 miles per hour of range. Thus those using 14-50 outlet with 50 amp breaker and an EVSE rated for this amperage are going to obtain close to 30 miles per hour of range. No different than what the Tesla vehicles obtain.
No. Read the Mach e website. Using the Ford charger at 48 amps--a 60 amp circuit--the Mach e gets "32 miles of range per charging hour, using the optional Ford Connected Charge Station". The 3 and the Y get 44 mph at 48 amps. (Requires a Tesla Wall charger.) Using the Mach-e included charger with a 40 amp circuit and 32 amps delivered, the Mach-e gets " 22 miles of range per charging hour, using the Ford Mobile Charger in a 240V outlet " The 3 and the Y get 30 mph at 32 amps with an included mobile charger. Both the Ford and the Tesla included mobile chargers are limited to 32 amps regardless of whether you're plugging the charger into a 40, 50 or 60 amp circuit. (Wire size inside the included chargers being the limiting factor.

The Mach e is limited to 150 Kw DC charging. The engineer was very clear about this. Only wishful thinking could make it read otherwise. The Mach e is only wired for 150 KW charging, because that's all the battery can handle. Again, he was very clear about that. Ford did a damn good job squeezing a 100 Kwh battery in to the Mach-e footprint when no one else could. Don't expect them to work miracles by improving the battery even further--in the next couple of years anyways.
 
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Use of the Clipper Creek eves charging cord is rated higher than the Ford mobile charging cord and at 50 amps not 40 amps it will produce more miles of range per hour of charging.
 
 




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