Ford Charger for Mach-E

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Here is an another view of the what appears to be a level 2 charging station:

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In this video, during the sit down interview part you can see the Ford branded charging station lit up in the background on the left. Dealers could purchase this unit and install it outside (reminds me of a supercharger).
interesting interviwew. Is that charger dcfc, and if so to what current/power
 

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Don't see a payment processing feature on it, although it could be around the side or something.

I wonder if it's just a non-payment charger? In other words, one for internal use (or whoever they give permission to use)?

Here's another pic I found on Reddit...

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It's a basic AC Level 2 charger wrapped up in a pretty box.

These branded chargers are usually set up at parking spaces close by to a new car showroom's door. So they're (usually) inaccessible after hours when the dealership gates are locked up. Should you attempt to use one while they're available, someone from sales will anxiously want to shake your hand and ask to show you some neat things on wheels.

Maybe I'm too sarcastic. I hope I'm wrong and that these are fast DC chargers available for free after hours. :)
 
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Don't see a payment processing feature on it, although it could be around the side or something.

I wonder if it's just a non-payment charger? In other words, one for internal use (or whoever they give permission to use)?

Here's another pic I found on Reddit...

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My understanding is that to be EV certified the dealer has to install a minimum of two charging stations. One in service and one in the customer parking area (as billyk24 stated). Not sure if they free to use or required to be active 24/7, but I would believe that they would be.
 

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It's a basic AC Level 2 charger wrapped up in a pretty box.

These branded chargers are usually set up at parking spaces close by to a new car showroom's door. So they're (usually) inaccessible after hours when the dealership gates are locked up. Should you attempt to use one while they're available, someone from sales will anxiously want to shake your hand and ask to show you some neat things on wheels.

Maybe I'm too sarcastic. I hope I'm wrong and that these are fast DC chargers available for free after hours. :)
That's precisely what I would expect. Probably no payment processing even installed, just a perk for their customers. (And probably in use a lot by their staff to charge demos, personal cars, and EVs in for service.)

It is funny how they copied the Tesla design so much with the colorful hole in the middle. Except of course it's Ford Blue. ?
 

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I'll have to stop into my dealer some day and see if they already have one of those. It just happens that the dealership built a whole new (bigger) showroom and lot late last year, and made the move across the street last month. The new digs might have been designed with a charger or two already built in.
 

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I'll have to stop into my dealer some day and see if they already have one of those. It just happens that the dealership built a whole new (bigger) showroom and lot late last year, and made the move across the street last month. The new digs might have been designed with a charger or two already built in.
Look by the service area first as this is likely the first one to go in. Some of the upcoming EV dealers have already had the older L2 chargers installed on their lot and it is unlikely they will need to upgrade to the newest models.
 

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Don't see a payment processing feature on it, although it could be around the side or something.

I wonder if it's just a non-payment charger? In other words, one for internal use (or whoever they give permission to use)?
Since the Mach E will be ISO 15118 compliant, drivers should only need to plug in and have the charger recognize the car and bill your pre-setup account (Fordpass?) directly. No credit card needed. I would never expect dealers to provide anything free :)

For more about ISO15118: https://cleantechnica.com/2019/03/1...doption-a-webinar-with-hubject-cleantechnica/
 
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Since the Mach E will be ISO 15118 compliant, drivers should only need to plug in and have the charger recognize the car and bill your pre-setup account (Fordpass?) directly. No credit card needed. I would never expect dealers to provide anything free :)

For more about ISO15118: https://cleantechnica.com/2019/03/1...doption-a-webinar-with-hubject-cleantechnica/
Just like the free oil changes and car washes that dealers give out. They are not about the service but a a way to build your loyalty to the dealer and a chance to up sell. People are creatures of habit, if you go the dealer for free charging the dealer is banking that you’ll come back for any vehicle service that you need.
 

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Neither of the two Ford dealers near me have any charge stations yet. The local BMW dealer has four level 2 chargers that are free and always open. The VW dealer has another two, also free and open.
 

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Neither of the two Ford dealers near me have any charge stations yet. The local BMW dealer has four level 2 chargers that are free and always open. The VW dealer has another two, also free and open.
Not sure how useful an L2 charger at a place like that is gonna be anyway. At a hotel, sure. I'd want a place for a 12-hour L2 charge overnight when on a trip. But a 10 or 20 or even a 60 minute L2 charge at a midday stop isn't gonna do much, unless I were desperate to add 10-20 miles to limp home on.
 

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Yet, there are several Chevy dealers in Michigan (via plugshare) have have slow speed DC chargers (CCS 25kW) that the public can use. Some dealers have Bosc slow speed DC chargers (35kW) (CCS) that can add 50 miles in less than 25 minutes. Not the best for long distance travel but in the Midwest there is a death of fast speed DC chargers that not even TEsla has covered? The UP of Michigan has zero fast DC chargers.
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