Full throttle limit on GT & GTPE: Did it just change?

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Hopefully someone can confirm or reject this with some additional testing but I think the full throttle mapping may have changed. I just got a crap ton of updates over the past two weeks and I'm now running 6.7.0.


I managed to do a total of 3 pulls to the 70-80mph range. Two rolling and one from a dead stop. Jail bars were minimal on the rolling (two bars). The dead stop pull had minimal jail bars during the entire pull, but for a brief moment after the pull, there were about seven or eight bars (guess) that were present for just a few seconds. Full throttle recovery seems quicker.

Another surprise was that I couldn't break the front tires loose like I used to be able to. Outside temp was 42° and road conditions were damp.

It feels like maybe Ford dialed the power back a little bit but raise the top-end limit.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Hopefully someone can confirm or reject this with some additional testing but I think the full throttle mapping may have changed. I just got a crap ton of updates over the past two weeks and I'm now running 6.7.0.


I managed to do a total of 3 pulls to the 70-80mph range. Two rolling and one from a dead stop. Jail bars were minimal on the rolling (two bars). The dead stop pull had minimal jail bars during the entire pull, but for a brief moment after the pull, there were about seven or eight bars (guess) that were present for just a few seconds. Full throttle recovery seems quicker.

Another surprise was that I couldn't break the front tires loose like I used to be able to. Outside temp was 42° and road conditions were damp.

It feels like maybe Ford dialed the power back a little bit but raise the top-end limit.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

I want to believe.
What do you “feel” the top limit was lifted to? I would think that would be something noticeable if increased by a second or two.
 
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What do you “feel” the top limit was lifted to? I would think that would be something noticeable if increased by a second or two.
I don't know. I ran out of road to safety test this. I'm hoping that someone with better road conditions can test this out. It felt like the car was still pulling power but it didn't just hit a brick wall like it used to.
 

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Hopefully someone can confirm or reject this with some additional testing but I think the full throttle mapping may have changed. I just got a crap ton of updates over the past two weeks and I'm now running 6.7.0.


I managed to do a total of 3 pulls to the 70-80mph range. Two rolling and one from a dead stop. Jail bars were minimal on the rolling (two bars). The dead stop pull had minimal jail bars during the entire pull, but for a brief moment after the pull, there were about seven or eight bars (guess) that were present for just a few seconds. Full throttle recovery seems quicker.

Another surprise was that I couldn't break the front tires loose like I used to be able to. Outside temp was 42° and road conditions were damp.

It feels like maybe Ford dialed the power back a little bit but raise the top-end limit.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

I want to believe.
Were the wipers on? What drive mode?

Could be ford dialing back the power a bit when raining which also extends the power limit accordingly.
 


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Another surprise was that I couldn't break the front tires loose like I used to be able to. Outside temp was 42° and road conditions were damp.
Max power might be more limited because the battery is cold. To rule that out, perform a departure time preconditioning before testing so you start with a warm battery pack.

Yes, I think there were some other observations that the jail bar recover time was a little faster with the newer powertrain software. At full throttle it's probably the same 0-60 time and limit as before.

Could just be the software that calculates the bars is different, but same power output.
 

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If it pulls better from 60-70+, that’d be great for highway passing of slower cars. Hope it’s true. Guess we’ll have to wait til someone draggys it.
 
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Max power might be more limited because the battery is cold. To rule that out, perform a departure time preconditioning before testing so you start with a warm battery pack.

Yes, I think there were some other observations that the jail bar recover time was a little faster with the newer powertrain software. At full throttle it's probably the same 0-60 time and limit as before.

Could just be the software that calculates the bars is different, but same power output.
Ah, yes. That makes sense. I just looked back at my driving log. The drive took place at 3 pm But my afternoon precondition is set for 345pm... So the battery was definitely not the warmest.
 
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If it pulls better from 60-70+, that’d be great for highway passing of slower cars. Hope it’s true. Guess we’ll have to wait til someone draggys it.
It pulled pretty great from a roll (15mph to about 80mph). But, yes. Hopefully someone can retest this with draggy.
 

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I’m highly skeptical at this point. Hope I’m proven wrong.
 

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It sounds like unbridled extend.
 

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Hopefully one of those guys with a Dragy is still around here and sees this.
I bought a Dragy but was never able to get it to work in my Mach-e .. it acted like it couldn't access satellites .. I thought maybe the windshield was the problem .. has anyone else experienced this?
 

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Max power might be more limited because the battery is cold. To rule that out, perform a departure time preconditioning before testing so you start with a warm battery pack.

Yes, I think there were some other observations that the jail bar recover time was a little faster with the newer powertrain software. At full throttle it's probably the same 0-60 time and limit as before.

Could just be the software that calculates the bars is different, but same power output.
I will second what Lee is saying here. With my premium I noticed a little difference when the battery was cold. Now that I have a GTPE I notice a huge difference when the battery is cold. When I preheat it drives like summer.
 

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Hopefully someone can confirm or reject this with some additional testing but I think the full throttle mapping may have changed. I just got a crap ton of updates over the past two weeks and I'm now running 6.7.0.


I managed to do a total of 3 pulls to the 70-80mph range. Two rolling and one from a dead stop. Jail bars were minimal on the rolling (two bars). The dead stop pull had minimal jail bars during the entire pull, but for a brief moment after the pull, there were about seven or eight bars (guess) that were present for just a few seconds. Full throttle recovery seems quicker.

Another surprise was that I couldn't break the front tires loose like I used to be able to. Outside temp was 42° and road conditions were damp.

It feels like maybe Ford dialed the power back a little bit but raise the top-end limit.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

I want to believe.
I dunno.

Just sounds like your car was cold, it pulled a little power (as shown by the gray bars and lack of tire spin) and then you let off when it would normally start pulling a ton of power (75 mph).

This sounds pretty normal winter stuff.

Maybe recovery is faster but since it’s some strange algorithm we have no clue how to calculate a before and after to see if it changed.

Side note- hate your title. Gave me false hopes!! 😜
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