How often do you plan on using your NACS adapter?

[jeffMachE]

Tesla also has a supercharger in Green River, allowing for more flexibility and "backup" locations. The Green River EA station only had 1 out of 4 working when I stopped there, with a whole bunch of nothing for many miles around.

Agree about the Green River EA challenge. But the Tesla Superchargers in Green River are only V2 and not open to us. Green River is really a roll-the-dice (but absolutely required) stop when crossing nothern Utah. It is possible if travelling from Grand Junction to SLC on to bypass Green River and charge in Price UT instead. Slower (62 kW) charging, but free last time I drove that way. Will be doing that again in about 2 weeks driving from Denver to SLC.

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[adamtbest]

I'll probably have the NACS in the frunk at all times, but I rarely plan on using it. I figure if I really need to charge in a pinch, there are way more Tesla chargers.

 

[dwst480]

Rarely, since I rarely DCFC anyway. But having the option will make a big difference in anxiety and be comfortable with trips I wouldn’t otherwise take.

This.

 

[tuminatr]

You need to look at the amount you get per minute to figure out if it's expensive, or just inline with the per kWh rates.

Tesla is $1.03 / minute
EA is $0.28 / minute (pass plus)

Tesla is expensive.

Power in WI is around $0.14 per kwh and realistically these companies should make a healthy profit based on my car $0.48 to $0.56 per kwh would actually be about right. At that rate they would be profiting about 1.5x what the power company is charging per kwh. However business rates may be more expensive or cheaper but I am not sure?

BTW these two chargers are across the street from each other.

 

[voxel]

With DC Charging at the same price as gas here in FL - 18mpg Bronco at $3.45 per gallon vs. 56 cent per kWh at EA.... not sure why I would even bother with the Mach-E for any trip outside home charging range.

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I made an impromptu trip to my favorite event - Sun N Fun night airshow and drove 190 miles round trip and was forced to charge at Lakeland (new EA location) because I only had 70% SoC at the start (again... didn't plan and I don't keep SoC at 100%). If that new EA location didn't exist or I didn't have a NACS adapter... I would have had to make a much longer detour to charge.

In retrospect...I should have taken the gas car. The GOM range estimate at 70% was very wrong - because driving at 75+ mph significantly reduced range but at least Apple Maps predicted I would not make it back without charging and routed me to a charger on my way back. BlueCruise did make the trip very relaxing though.

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

Only on road trips (a few a year). I've only used it once (as a quick test), but based on the experience it's difficult for me to imagine using CCS chargers again. The Tesla experience is so vastly superior. (And I'm no Tesla fanboy - quite the opposite.)

 

[Dear_OP]

Does the rate of charge affected using the NACS adapter compared to Tesla's own cars?

Any chance of Tesla upping the fees for non-Teslas using its SC down the road? You know.... Elon doing what he Musk to gain $$$.

 

[kdonnel]

Does the rate of charge affected using the NACS adapter compared to Tesla's own cars?

Any chance of Tesla upping the fees for non-Teslas using its SC down the road? You know.... Elon doing what he Musk to gain $$$.

Tesla already charges more for non Teslas. They offer a monthly subscription that I believe brings non Teslas down to the same price Tesla owners pay.

They appear to be in business to make money unlike Electrify America.

I fully expect prices to rise as needed to maintain the desired profit margin.

 

[Dear_OP]

And so it begins. The fall of a still-born EV republic and rise of Tesla dominion.
I foresaw this when Tesla built out its SC years and years ago when everyone was bantering what the heck is a Tesla.
Hopefully the other charging companies quickly switch to NACS.

 

[B177y]

They appear to be in business to make money unlike Electrify America.

I am trying to understand your meaning behind this sentence.

Are you saying that Tesla trying to make a profit is a good thing or bad thing?

I think it's good, and I think that's what you're saying, but please clarify if you have a different point of view.

Personally, I wish EA tried to run a profitable business as it might create an incentive to keep their charging stations maintained and more reliable.

 

[kdonnel]

I am trying to understand your meaning behind this sentence.

Are you saying that Tesla trying to make a profit is a good thing or bad thing?

I think it's good, and I think that's what you're saying, but please clarify if you have a different point of view.

Personally, I wish EA tried to run a profitable business as it might create an incentive to keep their charging stations maintained and more reliable.

It is a good thing.

I also wish EA operated like they wanted to continue to exist.

 

[LeWe]

I’m one of those people who don’t have an L2 charger at home. I only L2 charge at work or DCFC when I’m low. I’ve seen how bad EA and EVgo can get in terms of reliability; there’s always at least one broken at any given station. And I always see tons of Tesla stations empty during my longer road trips. My experience with Tesla chargers is that they’re mostly working and delivering the full speed my car can handle. I expect I’ll be using the NACS adapter a whole lot and sometimes even preferring a well known and fast charging experience at Tesla to the gamble of EA.

 

[SolarAB]

Odds are I won't use it at all in 2024, since I won't get one until September, according to Ford.

 

[alexgorod]

I think that if I have a choice between charging the old way, without the adapter, or using Tesla, I prefer the old way. I don't like staying near the car guarding the adapter from being stolen and prefer to walk around or have a meal nearby. But it gives a good option if Tesla supercharger is the only available charger in the area, or provides a solid backup plan.

 

[Pibbman]

It depends, I travel through Wisconsin and will try to avoid Tesla chargers whenever possible. They charge about $1 per minute so it would be very expensive

This will likely change in the very near future or already has. A few weeks ago I believe the governor here in Wisconsin just signed a bill to change the law around this.

Our previous law was set that only power utilities were allowed to charge per kW, which is why you saw the per minute previously. He signed a bill changing this to allow charging stations the same rights.

On a separate note, we just got back from a WI to FL trip and I can state that I am looking forward to using Tesla stations for distance traveling because they almost always have excellent shops and foods near them. Guess what EA had? Walmart and Sam’s club and most of them didn’t have food options near them.

I definitely agree with others that here in the Midwest Tesla has that strongly in their favor.

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