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Enrolled in Early Access. Today, during my normal commute “Intelligent Range” reduced my range by almost 50 miles. Same daily commute, nothing special, warm day, normally have just over 250 miles of range at 90% charge. Now just over 200 miles.
Maybe they need to remove the word "Intelligent". Right now my GOM is really close to my actual range. If the GOM changes that much with the new unintelligent range feature, I don't see how it is better than before.
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Mine went from 229 to 180 while I was backing out of my garage. Had 88% charge.
 

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Yeah this was the intelligence I got pulling out yesterday. I had a notice first that my range was being adjusted for the temperature (73f yesterday)

Then this, 50mi less:

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Definitely in beta or alpha
 

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Now it's showing 199 miles at 90%, up from 166. So it is getting more intelligent.
 


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Now it's showing 199 miles at 90%, up from 166. So it is getting more intelligent.
Mine went from 201 to 199 yesterday. No popup that range was being adjusted though.
 

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When do you guys see this change? Are you using the nav? After I had that huge range increase when this was originally activated but not really activated, mine hasn't changed at all. Do you get in the car and turn it on and a few seconds later it adjusts or are you using the built in nav and it adjusts when the route is calculated?
 
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When do you guys see this change? Are you using the nav? After I had that huge range increase when this was originally activated but not really activated, mine hasn't changed at all. Do you get in the car and turn it on and a few seconds later it adjusts or are you using the built in nav and it adjusts when the route is calculated?
Yesterday, I got in the car and it had 201 miles at start. about 5 seconds later it dropped to 199. Could have just been the car updating with a slightly lower range due to sitting for a day since I didn't get a popup that it adjusted range. I've tried putting in nav destinations to see if it changes and so far that hasn't made it change either.
 

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Was using Apple Maps to navigate, noticed while driving that my range dropped significantly for no reason (other than Intelligent Range). Charged that night, range was about 50 miles less than normal. Tried to reach the Early Access team to talk about what happened, got passed around and eventually hung up on. So I exited the Intelligent Access program, reset my range (took a few times over a couple days as it must take time to unenroll), and now my range is back to normal.
 

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Intelligent range is absolute garbage. It just randomly lowers my range by a ton sometimes when I start driving. It is like it expects it to get super cold or me to suddenly drive super inefficiently. Such an odd thing.

They need to pull this and re-do it honestly its annoying.
 

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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't the Early Access program an opt-in way to play with BETA software and features? If so, it not working perfectly is expected behavior. The whole point of doing a BETA is to iron out the rough edges before releasing a product. Dealing with unfinished products is an inherent part of the deal with any BETA product.

Predicting range is a very complicated thing (if you've ever paid attention to the range guess in an ICE car, this was the case as well) that pivots around the weather, elevation change on you route, wind direction, how much weight you have in the car, etc.

Personally, I would rather have the GOM be low, than high. The number you see on the dash is a guess, it's always going to be a guess, the number that matters is underneath it. These numbers are only correlated :).
 

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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't the Early Access program an opt-in way to play with BETA software and features? If so, it not working perfectly is expected behavior. The whole point of doing a BETA is to iron out the rough edges before releasing a product. Dealing with unfinished products is an inherent part of the deal with any BETA product.

Predicting range is a very complicated thing (if you've ever paid attention to the range guess in an ICE car, this was the case as well) that pivots around the weather, elevation change on you route, wind direction, how much weight you have in the car, etc.

Personally, I would rather have the GOM be low, than high. The number you see on the dash is a guess, it's always going to be a guess, the number that matters is underneath it. These numbers are only correlated :).
I don't disagree but at this point this isn't even a beta. It's an alpha that isn't intelligent at all.
 

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I don't disagree but at this point this isn't even a beta. It's an alpha that isn't intelligent at all.
Maybe, maybe not. Without testing it, there's no way to say either way for sure. We're just guessing based on our personal, anecdotal experience, which we all know has the potential to be deeply flawed.

The numbers being "wrong" is likely to be a dataset volume issue. They need to collect huge numbers of trips with huge levels of variance in all the variables that can impact range.

I think it's great that they are pushing in this direction. That the numbers might be "wrong" isn't troubling to me in the least.

The biggest shortcoming is that Ford isn't letting us see their math (poor communication is a common theme with them:)). If we could dig into the range estimate similar to how the actual consumption app shows up with all the factors they are accounting for, it would greatly enhance the UX IMO. Being able to see -10% headwind, +5% temperature, would be awesome and educational. We've been trained by our navigation apps in a particular way, and we don't have the necessary data to make better choices when routing long distances. Something like that would be helpful.
 

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It’s a beta and I’m sure they are collecting as much data as the can to improve it.

I messaged them about the 50 mile drop and they were aware of it and said it was fixed.

So far I’m happy with the results!
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