Mach-e GTPE loses to everything

[HuntingPudel]

It might be a good time to sell, but there is no acceptable alternative to buy (in my book), which means I am holding onto mine until there is an acceptable alternative. Preferably one that has been around for a model year so I can see there are no more marketing shenanigans.

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[Rabidsquirrel22]

It might be a good time to sell, but there is no acceptable alternative to buy (in my book), which means I am holding onto mine until there is an acceptable alternative. Preferably one that has been around for a model year so I can see there are no more marketing shenanigans.

Yep. The only comparable option right now remains the Model Y Performance, which many of us surely considered and decided against for our own reasons. The EV6 GT & Ioniq 5 N will be the next ones to market, but that 206 mile EPA range on the Kia is an automatic deal breaker for me. The Blazer SS EV is the only other one I’m aware of that should land in the same price range, and I haven’t been too impressed by what I’ve seen there. Significantly heavier, negligible improvements to range or charging, and they’re only advertising a “sub 4” 0-60 which probably means the Mach-E will remain quicker in that metric.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Yep. The only comparable option right now remains the Model Y Performance, which many of us surely considered and decided against for our own reasons. The EV6 GT & Ioniq 5 N will be the next ones to market, but that 206 mile EPA range on the Kia is an automatic deal breaker for me. The Blazer SS EV is the only other one I’m aware of that should land in the same price range, and I haven’t been too impressed by what I’ve seen there. Significantly heavier, negligible improvements to range or charging, and they’re only advertising a “sub 4” 0-60 which probably means the Mach-E will remain quicker in that metric.

Yep, none of the above are on my acceptable alternative list. Looks like I am holding onto this car for a few more years at least.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

I don't know how people can be happy with the GTPE handling. The SUV is so under-tired. The tires would squeal in protest with moderate speed going around a cloverleaf. My previous cayenne could go 10mph faster on the same interchange without any drama.

 

[Mach1E]

It might be a good time to sell, but there is no acceptable alternative to buy (in my book), which means I am holding onto mine until there is an acceptable alternative. Preferably one that has been around for a model year so I can see there are no more marketing shenanigans.

Same.

For me it’s definitely a situation of “I love my car except for……”

But unfortunately nothing else checks all the boxes.

Only thing “coming soon” that has my attention at the moment is the Macan EV. But price may wreck that one as well.

Nothing checks all the boxes for me.

If the Genesis GV60 performance looked just a little better and I wouldn’t be giving up some of the low end punch….. maybe.

Blazer SS? Not bad, but who knows how complicated getting full power will be and I suspect handling, braking, and off the line power will be a compromise.

EV6 GT is stupid fast but stupid ugly. It’s more of a Model 3 performance competitor.

Rivian R1S also looks great, but bigger than I want, more $$ and a looooong wait to get one.

 

[silverelan]

Ok ok ok...MME doesn't win in the final. At that speed WHO CARES!! 0-60 is all that matters to me and the MME won that. Yes 5 sec rule sucks Pony tails, but bar none the MME is the best looking EV out there. I have the GTPE and the handling with the MagneRide is outstanding and the rims are so good to look at but so hard to clean
C'mon now... look at this beaut!!!
Just seyin

Ya gotta tint the front windows to complete the look.

 

[silverelan]

Yep. The only comparable option right now remains the Model Y Performance, which many of us surely considered and decided against for our own reasons. The EV6 GT & Ioniq 5 N will be the next ones to market, but that 206 mile EPA range on the Kia is an automatic deal breaker for me. The Blazer SS EV is the only other one I’m aware of that should land in the same price range, and I haven’t been too impressed by what I’ve seen there. Significantly heavier, negligible improvements to range or charging, and they’re only advertising a “sub 4” 0-60 which probably means the Mach-E will remain quicker in that metric.

This German says after having driven both the Kia EV6 GT and MME GTPE on the Autobahn, he prefers the MME despite the 5 Second Rule.

 

[Electric Goat]

Same.

For me it’s definitely a situation of “I love my car except for……”

But unfortunately nothing else checks all the boxes.

Only thing “coming soon” that has my attention at the moment is the Macan EV. But price may wreck that one as well.

Nothing checks all the boxes for me.

If the Genesis GV60 performance looked just a little better and I wouldn’t be giving up some of the low end punch….. maybe.

Blazer SS? Not bad, but who knows how complicated getting full power will be and I suspect handling, braking, and off the line power will be a compromise.

EV6 GT is stupid fast but stupid ugly. It’s more of a Model 3 performance competitor.

Rivian R1S also looks great, but bigger than I want, more $$ and a looooong wait to get one.

Nothing checks all the boxes. I thought my MME GT would but it's painfully obvious now that it won't. I'm still going to keep my MME GT but now I'll most likely just go buy a light-weight RWD ICE coupe.

 

[Rabidsquirrel22]

This German says after having driven both the Kia EV6 GT and MME GTPE on the Autobahn, he prefers the MME despite the 5 Second Rule.

Wow that's interesting. I guess it speaks to how nice this car is overall.

 

[voxel]

Yep. The only comparable option right now remains the Model Y Performance, which many of us surely considered and decided against for our own reasons. The EV6 GT & Ioniq 5 N will be the next ones to market, but that 206 mile EPA range on the Kia is an automatic deal breaker for me. The Blazer SS EV is the only other one I’m aware of that should land in the same price range, and I haven’t been too impressed by what I’ve seen there. Significantly heavier, negligible improvements to range or charging, and they’re only advertising a “sub 4” 0-60 which probably means the Mach-E will remain quicker in that metric.

Personally the only EVs meant for the track are the Model 3 Performance, Polestar 2, and Porsche Taycan. Even then... maybe just two M3P and Taycan.

These crossover EVs just embarrass themselves on the track. Fun but not remotely competitive.

For day to day sporty driving - there are options like the GV60 Performance, BMW i4 M50, Polestar 2 with Performance packs.

 

[Rabidsquirrel22]

Personally the only EVs meant for the track are the Model 3 Performance, Polestar 2, and Porsche Taycan. Even then... maybe just two M3P and Taycan.

These crossover EVs just embarrass themselves on the track. Fun but not remotely competitive.

For day to day sporty driving - there are options like the GV60 Performance, BMW i4 M50, Polestar 2 with Performance packs.

Yeah, SUVs aren't meant for the track. The road courses I go to don't even allow them. The Mach-E and its competitors are a fantastic class for getting a mix of practicality and fun daily driving performance, but the track is meant for real performance coupes and sedans.

 

[Panzer948]

Yeah, SUVs aren't meant for the track. The road courses I go to don't even allow them. The Mach-E and its competitors are a fantastic class for getting a mix of practicality and fun daily driving performance, but the track is meant for real performance coupes and sedans.

Exactly, that's why I still have my 2015 M4, which I also daily drive part of the week. But the MME GT PE will make a fun daily drive as well!

 

[Mach1E]

Yeah, SUVs aren't meant for the track. The road courses I go to don't even allow them. The Mach-E and its competitors are a fantastic class for getting a mix of practicality and fun daily driving performance, but the track is meant for real performance coupes and sedans.

“Meant for the track?”

Whatever happened to “run what you brung?”

The track is for anything you want to bring to the track.

That aside, this vehicle was clearly marketed to be built “for the track” and they even took the time to develop, implement and advertise a “track only mode.”

You also don’t need to huge Brembo brakes to reduce fading on the street.

That said, my guess is less than 1% will ever see a real road course. But that’s true of pretty much any vehicle that even you would agree is “made for the track.”

But it’s not about actually taking it to a track. It’s about the usable performance that results from being “track capable” that I care about.

Even though the track at Sebring is about an hour away, I’ll never take my GTPE there. The drag strip 30 minutes away on the other hand……

Which road courses do you use? I’m betting they’ll let the GTPE there if you wanted to. Just show them that it’s a “station wagon” with 5” of ground clearance.

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