Non-EV vehicles taking up chargers

[mkhuffman]

Yeah pretty much. I used to see a few different Leafs and MYs camping there. Quite often the owners were in the car sleeping. Since the change, I can usually find a spot there if I'm somewhat low on electrons. I'm usually in and out in less than 30 minutes so, honestly, I'm not getting much of a SOC bump anyway. I'd be in a world of hurt if I actually needed to really charge the car at any L2 that is not located inside my home garage. I'd rather take my chance on the Triassic Period EFACEC "fast" chargers down the road than park at Target for 4 hours.

One interesting touch, there are two handicapped stalls with L2 CP units on them. Those stalls are placarded for Handicapped and active charging only.

I definitely agree that a 1 hour (or 30 minute) L2 charge doesn't provide much, but there are times when that little extra bit of range is enough to avoid a DCFC stop. And if you charge while eating dinner, it might be closer to a 2 hour charge and now you have another 12 kWh in the battery. For my MME, that is around 14%. Sometimes that is all you need!

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[Ruben Anthony]

When I was in college I paid for my parking sticker and laminated it so I could just use transparent tape when I went to school and remove it when I was done. One time I parked in the Child Development Center parking spaces that was marked "CDC Parking Only". The CDC closed at 5:00pm and it was 6:30pm.

The campus held child development classes at night at the CDC so those students just assumed they could park there. One of the large parking garages was undergoing renovations so the other lots were packed with people driving around looking for anywhere to park. I just figured since the CDC was now closed for the day I would just take one of their spots. They had several rows of empty spaces after hours, but all these young college students taking night classes were afraid to take them

These two security guys who looked like college students with t-shirts with embroidered badges started walking up to my car since I kind of stood out surrounded by empty spaces.

I gave them a look of "I'm 38-years-old and I'm not in the mood to argue about why the sign should read, 'CDC Parking Only from 7:00am to 5:00pm.' " They looked at me and veered to the right and kept on walking. Haha. Over the next several days more and more people finally started parking those spaces and it was never an issue.

 

[dmastro]

Incentivizing free anything because someone owns an EV is wrong.

Parking in a parking spot for charging EVs when not charging is wrong.

Both are wrong. Stop giving free shit to people because they own an EV and broke college students won't find ways to do stupid crap like this.

While I agree with you in a true capitalist sense, there are factors such as Transportation Management Plans and other carbon limitations that are required of developers and operators. In turn, they are required to establish programs which incentivize use of carpooling, clean-air vehicles, public transit, etc. Providing free parking for EVs could be one way of incentivizing their use. Subsidies for car/vanpools and public transit, bike purchases, etc are common too.

I don't know the circumstances at this college, but offering a glimpse into why it may be done. I suppose though that one could also argue that any carbon restrictions on development are wrong.

 

[DevSecOps]

While I agree with you in a true capitalist sense, there are factors such as Transportation Management Plans and other carbon limitations that are required of developers and operators. In turn, they are required to establish programs which incentivize use of carpooling, clean-air vehicles, public transit, etc.

And I believe that they go against their stated goal. The goal of carpool lanes (HOV - high occupancy vehicle), was, well to carpool. EVs, although less carbon intensive vs some vehicles, still have a carbon footprint. If the stated goal is to reduce emissions those self claiming environmentalists should be taking public transit or carpooling. But as with many things, it's a do as I say, not as I do.

I don't just preach my beliefs, I live by them. I do not have a clean air vehicle sticker, and I will never use a carpool lane unless I'm carpooling, even in an EV. I don't think carpool lanes should be for single occupant vehicles just like I don't think people who aren't handicapped should use handicapped spots. It's the same as using a handicap spot when the driver isn't handicap but the passenger, who remains in the car, is handicapped. That's just an abuse of the system, while technically not illegal.

If these students got free charging, I wouldn't mind as much (still don't agree in free charging though) because that wouldn't create the problem. That's not what happened. They get free parking to the same parking lot as others who have to pay, just because they own an EV. What also confuses me is many of these people who are replying in favor of free parking are also those who scream "equality" and "fairness" and "wealth distribution". I would guess, and it's just a guess, that most students at a University with an EV are likely coming from a family who can afford parking. Prices are going down, but EVs have traditionally been much more expensive.

 

[mkhuffman]

I suppose though that one could also argue that any carbon restrictions on development are wrong.

That's what I would argue.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

And the "I got the wrong battery!" threads are incoming.

 

[HuntingPudel]

And the "I got the wrong battery!" threads are incoming.

So far I believe that nobody has gotten the wrong battery. I do believe that most of us with GTs got the wrong performance limiter. ??

 

[Fixbear]

I question the legitimacy of this story. I’ve never been anywhere that offers free parking just because you have an EV. I have been to a few places that offer free charging, but you still have to pay for parking.

It definitely seems like another made up story to make people get upset about EVs. Then again, my single handed experience doesn’t mean it’s not happening elsewhere.

I do agree though, if it is a true story, that’s not fair. Free charging? Alright, but they should still have to pay for parking regardless.

I don't know about other areas, but here they charge the students a semester charge if they have a car and need to park it on campus. Yet you can visit, go to concerts, and enjoy other functions no problem. I think it's to discourage them having vehicles at school. I also think it's just a way to separate the students from their money.

 

[Jimrpa]

Incentivizing free anything because someone owns an EV is wrong.

Parking in a parking spot for charging EVs when not charging is wrong.

Both are wrong. Stop giving free shit to people because they own an EV and broke college students won't find ways to do stupid crap like this.

But I DESERVE free stuff because I’m SPECIAL ???

 

[DevSecOps]

But I DESERVE free stuff because I’m SPECIAL ???

You got free frunk release. That's all you get this year.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I don't know about other areas, but here they charge the students a semester charge if they have a car and need to park it on campus. Yet you can visit, go to concerts, and enjoy other functions no problem. I think it's to discourage them having vehicles at school. I also think it's just a way to separate the students from their money.

The local Community College is permit-only parking. Visitors can purchase day permits. Adult school participants can purchase semester-length after-hours only permits for less than regular student semester-length permits. AFAIK, no exception for EVs. ?‍?

 

[Jimrpa]

You got free frunk release. That's all you get this year.

No, they merely made my car complete ? BlueCruise 1.3 will be the first significant “freebie” ???

 

[generaltso]

No, they merely made my car complete ? BlueCruise 1.3 will be the first significant “freebie” ???

Except it won’t be free for long. ?

 

[PonyTail]

I found a post today with someone mounting a wall charger plate onto their vehicle so they wouldn't have to pay for parking. What are your thougts, and maybe you can throw your comments in with mine!

Here's the Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?...yQ6MDGQiKYVLFgmiKaM787srVkyfl&mibextid=CDWPTG

Picture added so you can see it if you don't have facebook.

What bothers me most about it is all the comments calling him a genius for cheating.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I found a post today with someone mounting a wall charger plate onto their vehicle so they wouldn't have to pay for parking. What are your thougts, and maybe you can throw your comments in with mine!

Here's the Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?...yQ6MDGQiKYVLFgmiKaM787srVkyfl&mibextid=CDWPTG

Picture added so you can see it if you don't have facebook.

Texas. Figures.

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