Order prior to price increase, increased in price

[roroshah]

My Ford reservations page now shows a difference from total MSRP of $5,000. What is this?

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[DevSecOps]

My Ford reservations page now shows a difference from total MSRP of $5,000. What is this?

That I believe is how they list ADM online.

 

[roroshah]

That I believe is how they list ADM online.

When I ordered, there was a $0 difference. How can they add this just weeks before delivery?

 

[DevSecOps]

When I ordered, there was a $0 difference. How can they add this just weeks before delivery?

There's a whole thread about that. Do you have the original price printed out? Can you prove that? Is it a MY21? Did you leave a deposit?

 

[voxel]

I suspected this would happen. I do have a signed purchase order agreement from my dealer listing the price, taxes, government fees.

Unsure if Ford charges dealers more in 2022 for a Mach-E and will my dealer eat that cost? I doubt it. Technically the deposit is optionally refundable but I can't see any dealer fighting you over $500 with this sudden price increase change.

 

[DevSecOps]

As for everyone else my guess would be that you don't have much of a leg to stand on from a legal perspective. The reason is because you placed an order for a MY21 at that pricing and if the MY21 is no longer being made then the contract would be invalidated.

They keep the order in the system and honestly they don't care if you pick up the car or not. It's kinda, take it or leave it at that point. They can't make what they don't have anymore and there's nothing that guarantees you a different model than what's on paper.

 

[roroshah]

There's a whole thread about that. Do you have the original price printed out? Can you prove that? Is it a MY21? Did you leave a deposit?

I have the original price (even before the $1,000 increase) written in a docusign that the dealer sent me. It is a MY22 and I did leave a $500 deposit. Shouldn't this be honored?

 

[DevSecOps]

I have the original price (even before the $1,000 increase) written in a docusign that the dealer sent me. It is a MY22 and I did leave a $500 deposit. Shouldn't this be honored?

Yes and if you have that I wouldn't worry until the day you get the car. My assumption would be that in person they will honor it, especially if it's a MY22 and you have something in docusign. You could always call the Sales Manager tomorrow, but in your case I wouldn't overreact if you have all of that documentation. We've seen where people have had ADM listed but the dealer removed it at sale.

I think the people who are going to have an uphill battle are those who ordered a MY21 and got rolled into a MY22.

 

[roroshah]

Yes and if you have that I wouldn't worry until the day you get the car. My assumption would be that in person they will honor it, especially if it's a MY22 and you have something in docusign. You could always call the Sales Manager tomorrow, but in your case I wouldn't overreact if you have all of that documentation. We've seen where people have had ADM listed but the dealer removed it at sale.

I think the people who are going to have an uphill battle are those who ordered a MY21 and got rolled into a MY22.

Makes sense, thank you so much. Was just quite a shock to see this increase out of nowhere
Hope everyone is able to have their original prices honored!

 

[bpbailey]

I have 2 orders placed for CR1 with 2 different dealers:
Order 1: ordered 10/6, production scheduled 1/31, no X-plan but dealer confirmed no ADM
Order 2: ordered 11/8, no production date, dealer accepts ADM

I emailed both dealers yesterday with a screenshot of the original price to confirm with them that I’m “locked in”.
Dealer 2 said “whatever Ford’s MSRP is when the car is build will be their selling price”. Still shows original price online for order 2.
Dealer 1 just said “the car will be sold at MSRP.” ? Just logged in and noticed the $2k increase for order 1.

Getting these responses from multiple dealers leads me to believe that they will not be honoring the original price. Neither dealer gave the option for signing a purchase agreement prior to delivery either so, I guess I’m just screwed…

Are either of these dealers Perry Ford in National City? My MME Select is ordered through them, and my price has increased $1K since my 10/1 order date.

 

[Dancefreak]

I have a converted 2021 with the price increase showing up today when build week switched from 1/31 to 2/7. I also confirmed the 2022 order specs with a signed sheet with the dealer in October (though not an official purchase order). And I have the email from ford saying I’d get $750 to cover price increase (at the time). Feels like there should be a program in place to address this…though it would be nice to get an official email stating as much. Maybe we still will.

 

[Rapid Ed]

What is interesting to me is Ford announced the 2022 pricing and allowed people to place orders at that price (and converted 2021 to 22s at that price, albeit with the $750 credit).

However, they increased the price a second time before a single car was built. In other words, not a single car will be released at the price they initially offered it (at least not in terms of what's on the sticker). Shady at best. Legally dubious also? I don't know, but certainly shady.

 

[Reign of Ravens]

I thought I had read that orders placed before 12/8 wouldn't be affected, but after reviewing a few of the articles, it seems that was just speculation. Ford never promised that.

I have screenshots with the old price, but I don't think I'll put up a fight about this one. I don't expect to be able to win it. I just have to again complain about this order process, where Ford uses the terminology on their website about an order - complete with fairly extensive price breakdowns - and yet only some dealers are allowing customers to sign purchase or pricing agreements at the time of the order, while others are forcing people to wait for their surprise at the end. (My dealer says we can do it once we have the VIN...) It would be nice if that were standardized, and I think the pricing should be up-front. People with purchase agreements are probably secure...

 

[DennisD]

As for everyone else my guess would be that you don't have much of a leg to stand on from a legal perspective. The reason is because you placed an order for a MY21 at that pricing and if the MY21 is no longer being made then the contract would be invalidated.

They keep the order in the system and honestly they don't care if you pick up the car or not. It's kinda, take it or leave it at that point. They can't make what they don't have anymore and there's nothing that guarantees you a different model than what's on paper.

If you placed a deposit down for an order on an MME and at the time of said purchase, it was stated that the car would be delivered 6 months later (deep into 2022), Ford would be legally bound to sell that specific order (whether it was a model '21 or'22) for the agreed upon price.

The only way that I can see that they could "get out of it", is to say the MME is no longer in production or if the delay lasted much past the delivery date indicated.

Once again, an offer was made (by Ford) and the offer was accepted (by dealership via your order) and the contract was "signed" via the deposit thus making a valid contract. The signing of a purchase agreement doesn't mean more or less at this point. A contract is a contract but this is much better than a verbal contract. Proof is everything at this point.

Unless some extenuating circumstances occurred (the plant blows up), you can enforce the contract that was agreed upon.

Now with that being said, the dealership could certainly give you your deposit back and come up with a bogus reason. If you did however find out the dealership received the MME that you ordered and then sold it for a much higher price, I believe you could sue at that point. Not sure if it would be worth investing a lawyer fee at that time but the "threat" of this possibly occurring ahead of time would most likely persuade them of NOT doing that.

Many dealerships will tell you anything with a straight face and not have any problem lying about it.

My advice is to memorialize your conversations via email and stay firm. They will sweat and eventually give in.

 

[generaltso]

What is interesting to me is Ford announced the 2022 pricing and allowed people to place orders at that price (and converted 2021 to 22s at that price, albeit with the $750 credit).

Yeah, that was a weird decision. Why only raise the price $500 when announcing the 2022 only to raise it more shortly after? They should have just gone with the full price increase for the 2022 right out of the gate and given a credit equal to the difference to any 2021 orders that had to be converted.

But I do think Ford will end up honoring the price that was listed when the cars were ordered.

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