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I would bet that detailed release notes would generate more questions directed at Ford from the few that read the release notes versus the current system of generic release notes.
There's a happy medium somewhere on the spectrum where release notes might tell the owners which bugs were fixed and which features were tweaked or added. Haven't seen that happy medium yet though. :)
We are a small minority of all MME owners.
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I think you are way over estimating the ability of the average person to read and understand detailed release notes.

I would bet that detailed release notes would generate more questions directed at Ford from the few that read the release notes versus the current system of generic release notes.

Have you read Tesla release notes? They are technobabble. I think written to make people feel impressed about their cars.

We are a small minority of all MME owners. The vast majority do not seek out a message board or FB group. The vast majority don't have any idea they might be on an older release.

It is not economically feasible for Ford to change their software deployment method to satisfy such a small fraction of total owners.

edited to add example Tesla release notes. I feel as an owner I really need to know that my photon count has been upgraded.

- Upgraded the Object Detection network to photon count video streams and retrained all parameters with the latest autolabeled datasets (with a special emphasis on low visibility scenarios). Improved the architecture for better accuracy and latency, higher recall of far away vehicles, lower velocity error of crossing vehicles by 20%, and improved VRU precision by 20%.

- Converted the VRU Velocity network to a two-stage network, which reduced latency and improved crossing pedestrian velocity error by 6%.

- Converted the Non VRU Attributes network to a two-stage network, which reduced latency, reduced incorrect lane assignment of crossing vehicles by 45%, and reduced incorrect parked predictions by 15%.

- Reformulated the autoregressive Vector Lanes grammar to improve precision of lanes by 9.2%, recall of lanes by 18.7%, and recall of forks by 51.1%. Includes a full network update where all components were re-trained with 3.8x the amount of data.

- Added a new "road markings" module to the Vector Lanes neural network which improves lane topology error at intersections by 38.9%.

- Upgraded the Occupancy Network to align with road surface instead of ego for improved detection stability and improved recall at hill crest.

- Reduced runtime of candidate trajectory generation by approximately 80% and improved smoothness by distilling an expensive trajectory optimization procedure into a lightweight planner neural network.

- Improved decision making for short deadline lane changes around gores by richer modeling of the trade-off between going off-route vs trajectory required to drive through the gore region

- Reduced false slowdowns for pedestrians near crosswalk by using a better model for the kinematics of the pedestrian

- Added control for more precise object geometry as detected by general occupancy network.

- Improved control for vehicles cutting out of our desired path by better modeling of their turning / lateral maneuvers thus avoiding unnatural slowdowns

- Improved longitudinal control while offsetting around static obstacles by searching over feasible vehicle motion profiles

- Improved longitudinal control smoothness for in-lane vehicles during high relative velocity scenarios by also considering relative acceleration in the trajectory optimization

- Reduced best case object photon-to-control system latency by 26% through adaptive planner scheduling, restructuring of trajectory selection, and parallelizing perception compute. This allows us to make quicker decisions and improves reaction time.

- Introduced foundational support for model-parallel neural network inference by sharing intermediate tensors across SOCs to improve road edge and road line prediction consistency through changes to TRIP compiler, inference runtime, and inter-processor communication layer.

- Improved handling of traffic control behavior in dense intersection areas by improving the association logic between traffic lights and intersections.

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I think people are more cognizant of it than you think. They may not understand it all, but they are away that their car is doing something new today that it didn’t do yesterday and that coincided with an update.

I don’t think ford needs to be as detailed as Tesla, but at least say what part of the car was updated. They don’t even need to say the technical name of the module, just say, “this update is for the climate control” “this update is for sync” this update is for the cars internet connection”.

Just so that someone knows when an update comes through for their HVAC module, that probably isn’t why their PAAK isn’t working today.
 

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My point is, you don't have to mention it in literally every post you make on this forum, regardless of the topic of the thread. Your wishes are on the record, it's well established. Move on

This is the last I'll mention this, since this thread is about something else
I don't. Whether or not you believe that is entirely irrelevant. Scroll past or use ignore. It doesn't matter.
 

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I see your point, but I think you’d have a different group of people who would be confused. Those who would still see the vehicle as a monolithic system and wonder why they aren’t on the Mustang Mach E equivalent of macOS Monterey.
There will always be people who will be confused, I just think there should be a little more clarity on what is being hides for those that want it. Give me a “read more” button to expand the message beyond the generic “you’re rolling with the latest” message.
 

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This trope is getting really, really freaking old. No one cares
People do care, and even if this particular issue doesn’t impact someone they should care too. At this point it’s not about whether certain cars can do certain things, it’s about a promise, multiple promises really, that this company has made to its consumers and holding them to that.

It’s fine if you don’t care, but don’t make the mistake of thinking no one cares.
 


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This was posted because the info came to me straight from a senior Ford Engineer.

It’s not a trope, there is nothing figurative or metaphorical about the repeated questions regarding the remote frunk release for Job 1 cars. A lot of job 1 owners want the feature which is standard in every other car built since early July 2021. It was a feature promised to job 1 cars, repeatedly, in writing which has failed to materialize. The fact that some owners see little use for the frunk neither negates the promises made by Ford nor is it more persuasive than the than the owners who do use the Frunk regularly. The fact that you might not care about it also does not outweigh other owners nor does it negate the promises made by Ford.

And the fact that Ford, as of the second day of Winter 2022, still hasn’t pushed an update implementing a feature standard on 18 months and now 2 1/2 model years worth of cars, to job 1 cars, all of which have the hardware needed, speaks volumes about Ford.
 

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Just got this update and now I started having level 2 charging issues with the ford supplied EVSE.
 

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Late to this thread. Hoping to see 4.2.1 sooner than later on my 2022 MMEv GT+

OT: On the Hilo rainiest city thing @Kamuelaflyer posted earlier... If you're visiting the Big Island of Hawaii it doesn't matter if it's raining in Hilo, just drive 50 miles in any direction but north and you'll be in warm sunny weather. Big Island has the most climate regimes of any place its size in the country and it even has an active volcano or two. Trust me, weather is my thing. =)~
 

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Got 4.1.1 Tuesday just one day after 3.6.2. WooHoo

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Since I’ve received 4.1.1 all kind of issues showed up on my Mach-e. Was charging on a level 2 at the ski resort when I got a message that charging had stopped unexpectedly. I did not see the message until we stopped skiing. Had trouble remote starting the car but after 6-7 tries he finally started. When I got in the car I had the Power reduced message and a wrench icon but the car was working fine.

When I got home, just opening the charging door, all lights were red and of course no charging.

Got inside and then got the message that 4.1.1 just installed successfully. Got out again, plugged in the car and it is now charging normally but the wrench icon is still there.

Luckily I had an appointment for brake maintenance at the dealer and after lunch I get in the car to get it there, the wrench is gone but the warning is still in Fordpass. By the time I got there the Fordpass warning was gone as well.

Now the car is still at the dealer but another warning about reduced power and that the 12 v charging circuit maybe in trouble.

We’ll see what the dealer finds but it seem that many have similar issues after 4.1.1.
 

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Since I’ve received 4.1.1 all kind of issues showed up on my Mach-e. Was charging on a level 2 at the ski resort when I got a message that charging had stopped unexpectedly. I did not see the message until we stopped skiing. Had trouble remote starting the car but after 6-7 tries he finally started. When I got in the car I had the Power reduced message and a wrench icon but the car was working fine.

When I got home, just opening the charging door, all lights were red and of course no charging.

Got inside and then got the message that 4.1.1 just installed successfully. Got out again, plugged in the car and it is now charging normally but the wrench icon is still there.

Luckily I had an appointment for brake maintenance at the dealer and after lunch I get in the car to get it there, the wrench is gone but the warning is still in Fordpass. By the time I got there the Fordpass warning was gone as well.

Now the car is still at the dealer but another warning about reduced power and that the 12 v charging circuit maybe in trouble.

We’ll see what the dealer finds but it seem that many have similar issues after 4.1.1.
It is pretty common to have random weird stuff happen as the update is downloading, while it is installing and after it is done.

I restart Sync to try and stabilize it a bit and then cycle the car letting it rest a bit and then turn it on. If you don't want to deal with that, usually the next day it is back to its normal self.
 

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Got 4.1.1 today 1/11/2023
No weirdness yet. Wife drove the car to work right after the update.
 

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I got 4.1.1 today while at lunch on a road trip. WTF?
No weirdness. I just got 3.6.2 a few days ago.
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