Prices compared for charging at Supercharger (between Tesla and non-Teslas) - by JerryRigEverything

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[Luke]

In Nashua NH, at the same Mall parking lot area we have this per kWh:
EA at $44c (correction per minute on this one)
Tesla at $60c
EvGO at $69c

 

[ADDZ71]

Yes - I made a trip to South Florida last week and found the range of prices pretty wild. In SC & FL most chargers (EA / EVGo / FPL) charge by the kWh while in Georgia they cost on the minute. Then you can find a variety of prices within just a few miles of each other. Take for example, Naples Florida (FPL - $0.30/kWh, EA - $0.48/kWh, Tesla SC - $0.50/kWh). In Georgia you can likely charge much much cheaper than Florida since they charge by the minute. When we charged in Valdosta and Commerce on the way home we paid roughly half the Florida price when put on a apples to apples basis. The Tesla network looks like it offers obvious reliability benefits but it comes at a cost with the Tesla chargers usually 50% more than the corresponding EA charger. Considering we don't have the coverage that you have in California it is really the wild west and requires considerable comparison to find a reasonable price. Charging at home is king! (particularly since I am on a $20/month test program for all you can charge plan from Duke).

 

[Efthreeoh]

Remember when gas stations used to advertise their gas pricing on a big 'ole sign? Oh, wait...

 

[uclavic]

Out west (LA, AZ, Vegas) the pricing is all over the place with stations that I've taken a peek at. What I've found is that in areas where there is a lot of usage that Tesla has kept prices high for non-tesla vehicles to not drive traffic to those sites. In areas where there is less trafic the prices are quite reasonable and are usually 1 cent less than an Electify America station that is closeby. So since Telsa has a bunch of data they can price accordingly to manage flow. There are stations where its 1 price for the entire day and other stations where they charge different rates depending on the time of day.

I typically drive between LA/Vegas, LA/Phx, and LA/SD so I was only looking at charging stations along those routes. The biggest pain points for me so far have been at Quartzsite, AZ (only 4 EA charging stations) and Irvine, CA (always full with a line of cars waiting to charge). So now we'll have an 80+ charging station in Quartzsite and another 24 over in Tustin available for use with rates that are below what EA is charging.

I'm looking forward to getting the adapter in my hands. Too bad it won't be until May.

 

[Jimrpa]

Great video. Informative and to the point. The dude who makes those long, rambling videos should watch this or Mach-E Vlog for tips on how to make concise, informative videos.

 

[RickMachE]

A video of course...

 

[emichnov]

In Nashua NH, at the same Mall parking lot area we have this per kWh:
EA at $44c
Tesla at $60c
EvGO at $69c

The EA in Nashua is $44c per minute, not per kWH. That's actually a good deal. Yesterday, i averaged 95 kW charge rate and it ended up costing me about $27c per kWH. Pretty cheap for fast charging!

 

[Luke]

The EA in Nashua is $44c per minute, not per kWH. That's actually a good deal. Yesterday, i averaged 95 kW charge rate and it ended up costing me about $27c per kWH. Pretty cheap for fast charging!

You are correct. The EA is per minute, so even cheaper (for a low SOC charge session). The Ford pass actually quoting that as a per hour price. It would be nice if that was true:

 

[MBCook]

Where I live it’s 42¢ for Tesla and 56¢ for EA, not time based yet. EVgo wants 56¢ during normal daytime hours.

Absolutely was not expecting Tesla to be so much cheaper.

 

[A-A-Ron]

Yes - I made a trip to South Florida last week and found the range of prices pretty wild. In SC & FL most chargers (EA / EVGo / FPL) charge by the kWh while in Georgia they cost on the minute. Then you can find a variety of prices within just a few miles of each other. Take for example, Naples Florida (FPL - $0.30/kWh, EA - $0.48/kWh, Tesla SC - $0.50/kWh). In Georgia you can likely charge much much cheaper than Florida since they charge by the minute. When we charged in Valdosta and Commerce on the way home we paid roughly half the Florida price when put on a apples to apples basis. The Tesla network looks like it offers obvious reliability benefits but it comes at a cost with the Tesla chargers usually 50% more than the corresponding EA charger. Considering we don't have the coverage that you have in California it is really the wild west and requires considerable comparison to find a reasonable price. Charging at home is king! (particularly since I am on a $20/month test program for all you can charge plan from Duke).

Some states classify selling electricity by the kW as a utility with all sorts of burdensome regulations. That's the most common reason some DCFC is billed by time instead of power (but not the only reason).

 

[Mach Al]

In Nashua NH, at the same Mall parking lot area we have this per kWh:
EA at $44c
Tesla at $60c
EvGO at $69c

They should have to post a big sign for the rates like a gas’s station.

 

[rhougey]

Northern CA here. Comparing rates on the route I drive, EA locations are entirely $.56 per kWh, While the Tesla prices quoted me on their app (as a non-Tesla user) range between $.43 to $.61 per kWh depending on location. Most of them are in the $.45-$.49 range. Tesla also has some locations in my area where they have time of day pricing where the price ranges between $.31 (11PM-4AM) to $.61 (4PM-9PM) per kWh. So in my area, Tesla pricing is the winner compared to EA.

None of the route planner apps that I've played with seem to offer a "sort" or "choose by price" charge location planning feature as far as I can tell. I've never needed to plan a route, since I always drive the same route. But if I did, I would want that feature.

 

[Just Lurking]

Near me there's a new Tesla SC station that the Ford app claims is just $0.30/KwH. It's located at a casino, and markedly cheaper than anything else around here (including slow public L2 charging).

Makes me wonder, is the casino subsidizing the price somehow? I've not heard of any retail locations subsidizing the price of Tesla SC stations but if anyone does a casino certainly makes sense!

 

[Mirak]

Thanks to this video, I finally understand why cars with front driver-side ports are gonna take up two spots at a Supercharger station. But at least the plug will reach.

Also, 45 cents per kWh is not bad at all. EA and EVgo routinely cost 56 cents.

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