Severe loss of range

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" Set the maximum charge level to 100% and charge to 100% at least once per month to maintain range accuracy. "
The manual is ambiguous on this for LFP batteries. In one paragraph it states to charge to 100% once per month. In another paragraph it states: "During regular use, you can increase the battery life by maintaining the state of charge at 100%."
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There's a good chance that's the issue especially considering the OP's reply, but the SOC didn't drop, only the GOM did. Could be typical GOM nonsense.
Does the battery’s range actually drop or does the GOM just read inaccurately?
The range is based on the state of charge (or energy to empty). So if the range went down, it means the state of charge likely down as well (unless there are dramatic temperature swings at play). The problem is Ford uses some hysteresis on the state of charge display. Basically the % won’t go down while you’re parked, it will start rapidly adjusting down when you start driving. That’s why you might initially see the range go down but not the % change when you start the car. There’s a lag between the displayed SoC and the actual SoC.

For LFP I would charge to 90% daily and hit the button to go to 100% every couple weeks. But the difference between 90% and 100% in terms of battery health on LFP is very minimal compared to NCM chemistry. You could easy charge to 100% daily without much concern.
 

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The range is based on the state of charge (or energy to empty). So if the range went down, it means the state of charge likely down as well (unless there are dramatic temperature swings at play). The problem is Ford uses some hysteresis on the state of charge display. Basically the % won’t go down while you’re parked, it will start rapidly adjusting down when you start driving. That’s why you might initially see the range go down but not the % change when you start the car. There’s a lag between the displayed SoC and the actual SoC.

For LFP I would charge to 90% daily and hit the button to go to 100% every couple weeks. But the difference between 90% and 100% in terms of battery health on LFP is very minimal compared to NCM chemistry. You could easy charge to 100% daily without much concern.
I’m not sure I understand your statement. The battery actually loses that much stored energy? This may be a silly question, but where do all those electrons disappear to so quickly?
 

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You need to charge it to 100% ASAP. If you do not regularly charge a LFP battery to 100% (at least once or twice a month) the battery management system (BMS) can accumulate a lot of error which can cause sudden state of charge drops as you experienced.

You do not need to bring it to a dealer, just do the 100% charge every two weeks.
This should literally be a sticker inside the charge door. Just saying.


I’m not sure I understand your statement. The battery actually loses that much stored energy? This may be a silly question, but where do all those electrons disappear to so quickly?
No, it gets confused as it uses an avg driven kw range to kw energy in the pack to make it's calculations. It's the'smart' thing that says how much you have divided by how you drive (kw/m) +/- temp conditions = how much range you have.
LFP is much more sensitivefor those calcs.
 

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I’m not sure I understand your statement. The battery actually loses that much stored energy? This may be a silly question, but where do all those electrons disappear to so quickly?
The battery is not actually losing any energy, the computer’s estimate of how much energy in the pack is changing. Think of it like a bad gas gauge. The tank might be almost empty even if the gage says it’s half full. Filling the tank full resets the gas gauge computer so it has a better estimate.
 


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The battery is not actually losing any energy, the computer’s estimate of how much energy in the pack is changing. Think of it like a bad gas gauge. The tank might be almost empty even if the gage says it’s half full. Filling the tank full resets the gas gauge computer so it has a better estimate.
I think I I’ve got it. The battery never had the capacity the GOM stated. It just took some time to adjust the reading. I have never noticed this in our MME with a lithium battery so this is a quirk with LPF batteries only? Thanks for the explanation. I bought the car to learn about the new technology and I continue to do so after 3 years!
 

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Thanks for the advice. I rarely charge to 100% but I’ll be more diligent going forward. I’ve had the car almost 2 years now and this never happened before so I was super worried :LOL:
Did it work?
 

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As a quick fix, if you select "Start Charging" in the Ford app it thinks you want to charge to 100% and will override your 90% setting that one time. Some here like that--Indid not because either the other battery chemistry in our 2024 GT, we never charge to 100%.
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The NMC battery should be occasionally discharged below 15% and charged to 100% in order to correct BMS drift as well. Somewhere between 2 and 5 times a year should be just fine. 🤔🐩
 

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The NMC battery should be occasionally discharged below 15% and charged to 100% in order to correct BMS drift as well. Somewhere between 2 and 5 times a year should be just fine. 🤔🐩
Wait, wut? If I do it 6 times, does it blow up? :crazy:
 

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The NMC battery should be occasionally discharged below 15% and charged to 100% in order to correct BMS drift as well. Somewhere between 2 and 5 times a year should be just fine. 🤔🐩

I'm not seeing that in the manual. What is your source? I'd like to read more.
 
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Yes! Charged to 100% and I’m showing over 200 miles of range. Just realized I got an email from Ford on May 1 telling me to charge to 100% but I didn’t listen. I’m fairly confident they screwed up my range on purpose for not listening LOL.

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I saw that. Didn't impress me. I'll just follow the manual.
Mach-Lee's advice is solid and comes from being a Ford insider. Don't be so quick to dismiss his writeups on stuff like this.
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