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New CEO has a degree in computer science, I believe this guy is the guy Ford has been waiting for to finally get the company moving in the right direction. I am biased though as I am invested in Ford stock. :D He may not be current with programming languages etc, but the fundamentals of computer science from when he graduated have not changed much and I am pretty sure he understands software is what sets the product apart in the EV world
And he's a real car guy. Great combination.
 

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I just got back from Test driving the Model Y.
it was the LR AWD. It was not as fast as I thought it would be
Rear sub trunk is deeper than I thought. Auto folding seats didn’t auto fold.

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So, what was your overall impression? On a scale of 1 to 10 how well did you like the vehicle?
 

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It’s fine. The emptiness in front was not a problem but I was more distracted having to look right. There was too much human interaction for touch less drive. Regen wasn’t strong enough. Autopilot was ok. It’s not for me. I didn’t inspect the car for defects. I didn’t like how the windows go down a little and the passenger window went all the way down when I opened the door and it was raining.

Opinion is I like my 2015 MB BEV compliance car better. I would take the model Y over any ICE car.
I felt people were driving more aggressive around me in the Tesla.
 

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I just got back from Test driving the Model Y.
it was the LR AWD. It was not as fast as I thought it would be
Rear sub trunk is deeper than I thought. Auto folding seats didn’t auto fold.
wait wait wait

I want to make sure I'm understanding this.

A new car that was being sold as new that you were test-driving already had one of the basic features of the vehicle not working?

I mean I know we have all heard of the 900,000 item delivery checklists etc. but you'd think they'd have that kind of thing sorted before a test drive?
 

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wait wait wait

I want to make sure I'm understanding this.

A new car that was being sold as new that you were test-driving already had one of the basic features of the vehicle not working?

I mean I know we have all heard of the 900,000 item delivery checklists etc. but you'd think they'd have that kind of thing sorted before a test drive?
Why bother to improve a product until either supply exceeds demand, or demand figures out there are superior suppliers?
 

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As I ponder my first EV purchase and weigh the pros it consistently comes down to software vs hardware. Fords legacy car manufacturing experience should lead to a better constructed car with higher quality fit and finish. On the other hand, Tesla’s lead in software development is not be under estimated. Can Ford put out as polished product on the first go around? Also, the resale value of the Model 3 is compelling. On looks the Mach E wins hands down vs the MY, although the M3 is more attractive than the MY IMHO. Too bad Tesla didn’t make the M3 a hatch.
For whatever its worth, my ex-brother-in-law has a 5 year old Model S and it's been a lemon from the start. It's been in the shop multiple times a year, every year. The customer service is terrible as well. Because of that and similar stories I've seen over the years, I knew I didn't want to try my luck with a Tesla.
 

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For whatever its worth, my ex-brother-in-law has a 5 year old Model S and it's been a lemon from the start. It's been in the shop multiple times a year, every year. The customer service is terrible as well. Because of that and similar stories I've seen over the years, I knew I didn't want to try my luck with a Tesla.
I have the distinct fortune of working for a company started by two close friends in which I was part of the "ground floor" of their startup. Things have been going well and the two founders bought themselves Model X's on the same day three years ago. When they brought them into the office, I was amazed and marveled at the tech. As time wore on though, I started hearing about the problems they were both having. One of them had a massive rain leak through the falcon doors, another had a panel inside that wouldn't stay on and then rattled incessantly after being "repaired". Another problem had to do with a catastrophic suspension failure. Yet another was a 12 volt battery problem that left him stranded on the side of the road. Each time they had to bring it into the shop, they had to wait (without a loaner) for over 2 weeks to be seen. I own a VW GTI and have had less shop visits, even including my regular maintenance schedules than either one of them have had on flaws in their 100k vehicles. My appeal of their cars began to wane and as I began researching my path to an electric vehicle, I saw so many other Tesla horror stories. I already knew the owner was a douche, but the quality control and service issues of that company would infuriate me to no end. Reading all those issues made me realize that I'll never own one of their products. I wonder if their cars will get any better once Elon inevitably sells off the company to the Chinese.
 

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I have the distinct fortune of working for a company started by two close friends in which I was part of the "ground floor" of their startup. Things have been going well and the two founders bought themselves Model X's on the same day three years ago. When they brought them into the office, I was amazed and marveled at the tech. As time wore on though, I started hearing about the problems they were both having. One of them had a massive rain leak through the falcon doors, another had a panel inside that wouldn't stay on and then rattled incessantly after being "repaired". Another problem had to do with a catastrophic suspension failure. Yet another was a 12 volt battery problem that left him stranded on the side of the road. Each time they had to bring it into the shop, they had to wait (without a loaner) for over 2 weeks to be seen. I own a VW GTI and have had less shop visits, even including my regular maintenance schedules than either one of them have had on flaws in their 100k vehicles. My appeal of their cars began to wane and as I began researching my path to an electric vehicle, I saw so many other Tesla horror stories. I already knew the owner was a douche, but the quality control and service issues of that company would infuriate me to no end. Reading all those issues made me realize that I'll never own one of their products. I wonder if their cars will get any better once Elon inevitably sells off the company to the Chinese.
I had a buddy take a job at Tesla as a final QC inspector. He hated it and quit because he was told to pass through so many flawed cars that he would flag as needing to be fixed. When he first started, he sent so many back that he was told to let them slide. He told me they would increase the specs of acceptable flaws threshold just to get more cars out the door. He also told me they never made a Model X that would keep out water, the falcon doors always leaked.
 

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Mustang gonna be faster than tesla ?
 



 









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