The only thing Tesla has over Mach-E

[GreaseMonkey]

It's easy to compare on a forum where the other car is a bottom-tier EV with some of the slowest charging money can buy, Ford legendary quality and technology, dangerous ADAS system which can't see slow moving vehicles in broad daylight, etc.

The fact that speedometer is broken and ford can't push a simple OTA update to make it look like it did at release?

You know, I’m on my second Mach-E in less than three years. Call it slow charging, stupid, bottom tier, whatever. I LIKE it. My money, my call. Now fuck off, troll.

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[tobiasjef]

One feature that is random, but if you do not have access to wifi to download a software update (say you live in a condo) then you can connect to wifi at a tesla supercharger

I didn't know there was wifi as the car auto connects. I wonder if you can see the password and use it with non-teslas

 

[Billyk24]

The point is that tesla no longer has significant issues with stationary vehicles.------FSD is not dialed in yet as shown in the photo. FSD still is legally level #2. Tesla's own legal team has admitted such to the California DOT. Mercedes remains the only system to have a state certified level #3 of autonomous driving.
There is a troll named "Ana Miller" that frequents the Facebook site with the almost same tone of "voice" as seen in this thread.

 

[MacherAWD]

It's easy to compare on a forum where the other car is a bottom-tier EV with some of the slowest charging money can buy, Ford legendary quality and technology, dangerous ADAS system which can't see slow moving vehicles in broad daylight, etc.

The fact that speedometer is broken and ford can't push a simple OTA update to make it look like it did at release?

Glad you enjoy your car. Sorry no one cares. Maybe try a Taylor Swift forum, scream at Little girls why a 3 is better than her latest album?

 

[tobiasjef]

The point is that tesla no longer has significant issues with stationary vehicles.------FSD is not dialed in yet as shown in the photo. FSD still is legally level #2. Tesla's own legal team has admitted such to the California DOT. Mercedes remains the only system to have a state certified level #3 of autonomous driving.
There is a troll named "Ana Miller" that frequents the Facebook site with the almost same tone of "voice" as seen in this thread.

Tesla's legal team has admitted that there is only 1 way to release a self driving car and that is with level 2.

Doesn't make tesla's self driving level 2, does it?

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If you look at where the cybertruck crashed, that photo is misleading. This is one of the worst lane designs I have ever seen

If you look at that area on open street map it is incorrectly mapped. Not an issue for robotaxi release because tesla will have more detailed maps

 

[Billyk24]

Tesla's legal team has admitted that there is only 1 way to release a self driving car and that is with level 2.

Doesn't make tesla's self driving level 2, does it?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6231083,-119.8820082,3a,15y,354.21h,88.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGOUYrxUir20BjcKMIB42PQ!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=1.538001401983152&panoid=GOUYrxUir20BjcKMIB42PQ&yaw=354.21459617941247!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==

If you look at where the cybertruck crashed, that photo is misleading. This is one of the worst lane designs I have ever seen

If you look at that area on open street map it is incorrectly mapped. Not an issue for robotaxi release because tesla will have more detailed maps

Incorrectly mapped? Err, Anna scolded us on how Blue Cruise is limited to mapped routes and FSD isn't.
Whatever, the driver of the Cybertruck warned others about relying on FSD.
You should tell us why Mercedes has certified level #3 of auutonomus driving while Tesla does not. Anna could not and referred to "soon" in many different words.

 

[tobiasjef]

Incorrectly mapped? Err, Anna scolded us on how Blue Cruise is limited to mapped routes and FSD isn't.
Whatever, the driver of the Cybertruck warned others about relying on FSD.
You should tell us why Mercedes has certified level #3 of auutonomus driving while Tesla does not. Anna could not and referred to "soon" in many different words.

I don't know who you're referring to or what group, but mapping is a prerequisite to self driving. During development you want to not use HD maps, but mapping is what allows you to drive like a local.

You can see that tesla has launched in china and the generalized solution for self driving generally works, but mapping is the final piece to improve driving quality.

FSD is not limited to mapped routes and will not be in the future, but mapping is done using machine learning and is a scalable problem.

It also does not help that tesla is developing FSD for many different vehicles and cybertruck performs worse than any other vehicles. Cybertruck and older hardware 3 vehicles are giving FSD a bad name. That's why FSD youtubers who make videos (dirty tesla, chuck cook, whole mars catalog, etc.) never film videos in the cybertruck. Because it is not interesting and the performance is worse.

 

[tobiasjef]

Incorrectly mapped? Err, Anna scolded us on how Blue Cruise is limited to mapped routes and FSD isn't.
Whatever, the driver of the Cybertruck warned others about relying on FSD.
You should tell us why Mercedes has certified level #3 of auutonomus driving while Tesla does not. Anna could not and referred to "soon" in many different words.

There's also a fundamental difference between what tesla is doing and what bluecruise is doing.

Tesla is a complete navigation product. Not just lane centering and cruise control. In the case of ford, mapping is a bad crutch if you are using mapping to understand how many lanes there are, how the curves move, etc.

AI can easily tell you those things and you can predict blind curves ahead just like a human does.

What mapping does is it gives you prerequisite info about lane selection, which is only needed if you are building a system that intends to make interchanges, navigate by itself, and get you to a destination without any input.

In tesla's case they are actually at a disadvantage because they are driving with "incorrect" map data and on the fly trying to drive. Imagine trying to drive in a new city with someone feeding you wrong instructions about what lane to be in, etc.

So as long as you use FSD in a place you know, it performs pretty much the same every day with no surprises

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Matrix headlights are a new thing for the US, the law had to change to allow them.

The rules were change to allow the adaptive headlight systems and matrix headlights. What was not changed were the maximum allowable brightness levels (lumens). US brightness levels will be significantly lower than what you see on EU cars.

 

[Billyk24]

There's also a fundamental difference between what tesla is doing and what bluecruise is doing.

Tesla is a complete navigation product. Not just lane centering and cruise control. In the case of ford, mapping is a bad crutch if you are using mapping to understand how many lanes there are, how the curves move, etc.

AI can easily tell you those things and you can predict blind curves ahead just like a human does.

What mapping does is it gives you prerequisite info about lane selection, which is only needed if you are building a system that intends to make interchanges, navigate by itself, and get you to a destination without any input.

In tesla's case they are actually at a disadvantage because they are driving with "incorrect" map data and on the fly trying to drive. Imagine trying to drive in a new city with someone feeding you wrong instructions about what lane to be in, etc.

So as long as you use FSD in a place you know, it performs pretty much the same every day with no surprises

The reply is not new "news" to Mach E owners. Anna still hasn't told us why only Mercedes has certified level 3 autonoums driving. We know why but will Anna admit such?

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

So sometimes it'll run a red light if the map is wrong. Cool. That's safe.

Try taking FSD onto one of our many (and increasing in number) roundabouts. That doesn’t end well.

 

[Mustangor]

This Kamuelaflyer's cat looks like a Gangsta....

 

[zvez]

Try taking FSD onto one of our many (and increasing in number) roundabouts. That doesn’t end well.

I've yet to have any desire to have FSD, autopilot or whatever self driving is called. I'd rather be more connected than disconnected to my vehicle. I keep thinking of all the things in my life powered by computers, how often they glitch and have to be rebooted. I never even tried bluecruise on either of my two mach es.

But I'm old so that explains a lot.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

This Kamuelaflyer's cat looks like a Gangsta....

Don't diss the princess. Oh ... wait ... she would've taken that as the compliment you intended it as ... or else.

She was a good girl.

 

[zvez]

This Kamuelaflyer's cat looks like a Gangsta....

#catthuglife

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