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Great. All I intended was to point out that the Torino is scheduled back to us ports and that the ace left veracruz on the date I had an email saying on the way also on the where's my showed in transit so put 2 and 2 together.
Well luckily for us all Torino has finished it’s very logical northward itinerary of pick up and drop off stops at US ports, and is now heading to Antwerp as expected.
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UK folks what do you have in the boot beneath the mat?
 

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Hey, fellas.
…this mate has a question about Commandos but not the kind that us stupid Americans relate to. He could use your wisdom:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/32-amp-socket-uk.15676/
Hi @macchiaz-o

I jumped over to that thread and answered the query. Thanks for letting us know.

I always get a bit twitchy when well meaning US forum members start quoting US regs and plug specs to UK members. The plugs and specifications are all very different here and people get real confused real quick ?
 

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Hi @macchiaz-o

I jumped over to that thread and answered the query. Thanks for letting us know.

I always get a bit twitchy when well meaning US forum members start quoting US regs and plug specs to UK members. The plugs and specifications are all very different here and people get real confused real quick ?
Yes, I completely agree, Tony!

I felt bad that people kept replying with misplaced advice.
 


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Well luckily for us all Torino has finished it’s very logical northward itinerary of pick up and drop off stops at US ports, and is now heading to Antwerp as expected.
1 week to go, just looked, that brings back memories. I hope for you that your new one has a quicker turnaround in Antwerp than Big Red did.
 

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I think my 2022 is on the same ship.

My car went compound out at Veracruz on 26/02/22 the same day the Grimaldi lines vessel was in port. Ford have always used that line, so it’s not too much of a stretch to assume that’s the one.

The whereismymme site is awesome, but I don’t think the shipping manifest numbers are being updated. You’ll probably find that it will next update when your car goes compound in at Antwerp and tracking will resume.

In the meantime keep an eye on MarineTraffic.com - the ship has just arrived in NYC, and I think it’s next stop is Antwerp.
Hi Wonky,

Yeah, i thought that was the situation to be honest! The dealer eluded as much when i asked, their response being "we literally get told when it's at Veracruz, then when it's at Belgium", it's mad to think your 22 is on the same ship as my 21 ? - hey, i'm not complaining, any mach-e is better than none right now!

The Torino is currently cruising across the Atlantic doing a cool 18 knots and looks like it's due to dock a week today, sounds doable...

I guess another week will tell huh?

Thanks for your help and insight, always appreciated - looking forward to seeing some nice pics of the Orange 22 ;)
 

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Hiya

I don’t think anyone has implied that Grande Torino has been already been to Antwerp and got back to USA in double quick time.

We found last year that the ships were notorious for stopping off at almost every east coast US port and slowly making their way north before finally making the final transatlantic leg of the journey. Quite often there appears to be absolutely no logic in shipping itineraries, but I can tell you one thing - none of the 2021 shipments went on anything like a direct route to Antwerp - and they never seem to be in a hurry which makes it all the more frustrating!

In addition to the above Ford has always traditionally used Grimaldi as their shipping company for Mach-E which Grande Torino belongs to. Dugong Ace belongs to Mitsui OSK Lines.

If our cars were on Dugong Ace which docked in Antwerp on 16th March we would have seen our car status update to “COMPOUND IN - ANT”, and unfortunately this hasn’t happened either.

I’m not trying to discredit anyone or any assumptions, but I’ve been at this Mustang tracking game for year now and my gut is telling me Torino is the one…. But I’m first to admit I’m not always 100% right.

Lets see what new info comes up in the next few days, but I’ll try and get the manifest number so we can check individual VIN numbers onboard.
Manifest Number would be AWESOME Wonkey, i can send you my VIN by PM If you want to check for me? I'm 99.9% positive it's on the Torino as the dealer just told me that Mach-e's are almost exclusively shipped with Grimaldi Lines with no changes advised since they started.
 

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I promised a while back to report back on my Mustang Mach E road trip to the Alps. This was back in mid-February, better late than never for an update (no, it hasn't taken me 6 weeks to get back home).

The journey was from South East London, to Chamonix in France (651 miles) using the Eurotunnel. For those who want a quick summary, I made it there and back without any major trouble. Had to do one long charging leg, which got the anxiety going, but all was well. I mostly used Ionity charging stations and they all worked great. I have the longest range Mach E available (RWD ER) and had the dealer software update the week before I left that unlocks the charging curve above 80% (very useful on this trip).

Only advice I would give is to do do a bit of research on your charging options (have a plan B and C), don't rely on the charging suggestions in Ford's navigation, and then you should have no issues doing long journeys in this awesome car.

For those that want more detail - read on!

Pre-trip, I did research on the chargers I could use on the trip (mostly Ionity), but back up options too, either on the motorway route, or with slight detours if needed. For European travel, I've found the app ChargeMap the best, but I did also use ABRP to double check I hadn't missed a trick. ChargeMap also as a RFID card that gives you access to chargers in France, and I'd used that in previous years with my PHEV - would recommend.

A few notes on driving style/conditions: kept to 70mph for the short drive Folkestone, then in France stuck to around 75mph/120kmh (speed limit is 130kmh). Outside temp was 3C when leaving, and got up to 7C driving through France during the day. Car was in Whisper mode throughout, and use of heating (1-bar of Auto at 21C) used sparingly to help demist windows, and I would pre-heat while nearing the end of a rapid charge. Heated seats and steering wheel used as well. Two people in the car, plus ski/mountaineering gear.

Early start for a pre-dawn Eurotunnel train, with 93% charge showing 292 miles (I don't have home charging, and some issues with local chargers meant it wasn't easy to get it to 100% before leaving). Did a very short top up using the free 50kW at the Eurotunnel but only time for a handful of extra miles as we boarded an early train. On either side of the Channel, driving efficiency was a bit lower than I'm used to (perhaps it was the extra weight of our gear) and needing to use the climate control to demist windows at times - was getting around 2.3-2.4m/kWh.

Next stop was the Ionity chargers at the Aire de Rely services (Autoroute 26). Arrived with 46% charger (118 mile range), and we stayed for around 50 minutes while we had some breakfast, and let the charge reach 96% (286 miles predicted range) before leaving - the software update made this possible, otherwise you would have to wait much longer to do this. The reason for charging so high? The next Ionity station was 214 miles away near Troyes (there is now one inbetween near Reims, but frustratingly, this was only commissioned in time for my return journey).

I started off with confidence - thinking 214 miles to the charger, with 286 in the bank, and having been driving on motorways for several hours the range estimate should be on the money. Not quite. A little way into this leg I'd planned a stop at a services for coffee, knowing there was an old 50kW unit (same as the old Ecotricity ones) that appeared to be working. This was a 30 minute stop, and I only added 4% battery - so not much, but turned out to be very useful! Things were looking ok though, with the Ionity at Troyes 137 miles away, and the range estimated at 169 miles, so crack on we did.

I kept an eye on that 32 mile range buffer, and did notice that it was slowly dropping. Once it got down to just 10 miles of buffer between predicted range and distance to travel, and with an hour of driving still to go, I decided to make some changes. Dropped speed from 75mph to 65 mph and didn't use any more climate control (I was already using it sparingly). This had the effect of lifting the driving efficiency on that leg of the journey from 2.3m/kWh to 2.7m/kWh. The range buffer also started to increase slightly. Started feeling confident again that we would make it to the charger. We pulled into the Ionity chargers with 15 miles of indicated range left, and 6% battery (was feeling thankful for that slow 4% charge a couple of hours earlier). All the Ionity chargers were empty, and within 30 second of plugging in we were charging at 158kW. The chargers were in the car park of a very nice restaurant, and it was midday so we went in there for lunch. 40ish mins later the car had hit 80%, and it made it all the way up to 100% by the time we'd finished lunch (90 mins) - that faster charging above 80% a really helps.

We were over half way now, but we had overcome the charging desert in the middle of the route, so I was relaxed about the rest of the journey. There were Ionity stations every 150 miles of so, plus other options too, e.g. FastNed. These charges were all easy, pausing 20-25 mins on two more stops. Interestingly, the majority of other EVs charging at these sites were from the UK, and it was nice to chat and feel a sense of community with other drivers on their first multi-country trips.

Overall the efficiency of the drive came out at 2.7m/kWh (slightly warmer temps in the afternoon helped I think). Overall, I didn't stop more than previous times I've driven this journey, as I managed to time charging to refreshment/meal breaks.

The journey back was similar, accept that there was an extra Ionity open at Reims, which meant no big gap between ultra rapid chargers. It did become challenging getting close to Calais as we were driving head on to the storms that were hitting the UK at the time, with buffeting cross-winds and heavy rain, which reduced efficiency to 2.1m/kWh!!

For this trip I bought an Emovis Tag for the toll booths, which worked great and means you can breeze straight through the barriers (I was meant to be doing one leg on my own, and doing the hokey cokey to deal with payment on the left-hand side of the car is something to avoid).

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I promised a while back to report back on my Mustang Mach E road trip to the Alps. This was back in mid-February, better late than never for an update (no, it hasn't taken me 6 weeks to get back home).

The journey was from South East London, to Chamonix in France (651 miles) using the Eurotunnel. For those who want a quick summary, I made it there and back without any major trouble. Had to do one long charging leg, which got the anxiety going, but all was well. I mostly used Ionity charging stations and they all worked great. I have the longest range Mach E available (RWD ER) and had the dealer software update the week before I left that unlocks the charging curve above 80% (very useful on this trip).

Only advice I would give is to do do a bit of research on your charging options (have a plan B and C), don't rely on the charging suggestions in Ford's navigation, and then you should have no issues doing long journeys in this awesome car.

For those that want more detail - read on!

Pre-trip, I did research on the chargers I could use on the trip (mostly Ionity), but back up options too, either on the motorway route, or with slight detours if needed. For European travel, I've found the app ChargeMap the best, but I did also use ABRP to double check I hadn't missed a trick. ChargeMap also as a RFID card that gives you access to chargers in France, and I'd used that in previous years with my PHEV - would recommend.

A few notes on driving style/conditions: kept to 70mph for the short drive Folkestone, then in France stuck to around 75mph/120kmh (speed limit is 130kmh). Outside temp was 3C when leaving, and got up to 7C driving through France during the day. Car was in Whisper mode throughout, and use of heating (1-bar of Auto at 21C) used sparingly to help demist windows, and I would pre-heat while nearing the end of a rapid charge. Heated seats and steering wheel used as well. Two people in the car, plus ski/mountaineering gear.

Early start for a pre-dawn Eurotunnel train, with 93% charge showing 292 miles (I don't have home charging, and some issues with local chargers meant it wasn't easy to get it to 100% before leaving). Did a very short top up using the free 50kW at the Eurotunnel but only time for a handful of extra miles as we boarded an early train. On either side of the Channel, driving efficiency was a bit lower than I'm used to (perhaps it was the extra weight of our gear) and needing to use the climate control to demist windows at times - was getting around 2.3-2.4m/kWh.

Next stop was the Ionity chargers at the Aire de Rely services (Autoroute 26). Arrived with 46% charger (118 mile range), and we stayed for around 50 minutes while we had some breakfast, and let the charge reach 96% (286 miles predicted range) before leaving - the software update made this possible, otherwise you would have to wait much longer to do this. The reason for charging so high? The next Ionity station was 214 miles away near Troyes (there is now one inbetween near Reims, but frustratingly, this was only commissioned in time for my return journey).

I started off with confidence - thinking 214 miles to the charger, with 286 in the bank, and having been driving on motorways for several hours the range estimate should be on the money. Not quite. A little way into this leg I'd planned a stop at a services for coffee, knowing there was an old 50kW unit (same as the old Ecotricity ones) that appeared to be working. This was a 30 minute stop, and I only added 4% battery - so not much, but turned out to be very useful! Things were looking ok though, with the Ionity at Troyes 137 miles away, and the range estimated at 169 miles, so crack on we did.

I kept an eye on that 32 mile range buffer, and did notice that it was slowly dropping. Once it got down to just 10 miles of buffer between predicted range and distance to travel, and with an hour of driving still to go, I decided to make some changes. Dropped speed from 75mph to 65 mph and didn't use any more climate control (I was already using it sparingly). This had the effect of lifting the driving efficiency on that leg of the journey from 2.3m/kWh to 2.7m/kWh. The range buffer also started to increase slightly. Started feeling confident again that we would make it to the charger. We pulled into the Ionity chargers with 15 miles of indicated range left, and 6% battery (was feeling thankful for that slow 4% charge a couple of hours earlier). All the Ionity chargers were empty, and within 30 second of plugging in we were charging at 158kW. The chargers were in the car park of a very nice restaurant, and it was midday so we went in there for lunch. 40ish mins later the car had hit 80%, and it made it all the way up to 100% by the time we'd finished lunch (90 mins) - that faster charging above 80% a really helps.

We were over half way now, but we had overcome the charging desert in the middle of the route, so I was relaxed about the rest of the journey. There were Ionity stations every 150 miles of so, plus other options too, e.g. FastNed. These charges were all easy, pausing 20-25 mins on two more stops. Interestingly, the majority of other EVs charging at these sites were from the UK, and it was nice to chat and feel a sense of community with other drivers on their first multi-country trips.

Overall the efficiency of the drive came out at 2.7m/kWh (slightly warmer temps in the afternoon helped I think). Overall, I didn't stop more than previous times I've driven this journey, as I managed to time charging to refreshment/meal breaks.

The journey back was similar, accept that there was an extra Ionity open at Reims, which meant no big gap between ultra rapid chargers. It did become challenging getting close to Calais as we were driving head on to the storms that were hitting the UK at the time, with buffeting cross-winds and heavy rain, which reduced efficiency to 2.1m/kWh!!

For this trip I bought an Emovis Tag for the toll booths, which worked great and means you can breeze straight through the barriers (I was meant to be doing one leg on my own, and doing the hokey cokey to deal with payment on the left-hand side of the car is something to avoid).

Shout if any questions!!!

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I promised a while back to report back on my Mustang Mach E road trip to the Alps. This was back in mid-February, better late than never for an update (no, it hasn't taken me 6 weeks to get back home).

The journey was from South East London, to Chamonix in France (651 miles) using the Eurotunnel. For those who want a quick summary, I made it there and back without any major trouble. Had to do one long charging leg, which got the anxiety going, but all was well. I mostly used Ionity charging stations and they all worked great. I have the longest range Mach E available (RWD ER) and had the dealer software update the week before I left that unlocks the charging curve above 80% (very useful on this trip).

Only advice I would give is to do do a bit of research on your charging options (have a plan B and C), don't rely on the charging suggestions in Ford's navigation, and then you should have no issues doing long journeys in this awesome car.

For those that want more detail - read on!

Pre-trip, I did research on the chargers I could use on the trip (mostly Ionity), but back up options too, either on the motorway route, or with slight detours if needed. For European travel, I've found the app ChargeMap the best, but I did also use ABRP to double check I hadn't missed a trick. ChargeMap also as a RFID card that gives you access to chargers in France, and I'd used that in previous years with my PHEV - would recommend.

A few notes on driving style/conditions: kept to 70mph for the short drive Folkestone, then in France stuck to around 75mph/120kmh (speed limit is 130kmh). Outside temp was 3C when leaving, and got up to 7C driving through France during the day. Car was in Whisper mode throughout, and use of heating (1-bar of Auto at 21C) used sparingly to help demist windows, and I would pre-heat while nearing the end of a rapid charge. Heated seats and steering wheel used as well. Two people in the car, plus ski/mountaineering gear.

Early start for a pre-dawn Eurotunnel train, with 93% charge showing 292 miles (I don't have home charging, and some issues with local chargers meant it wasn't easy to get it to 100% before leaving). Did a very short top up using the free 50kW at the Eurotunnel but only time for a handful of extra miles as we boarded an early train. On either side of the Channel, driving efficiency was a bit lower than I'm used to (perhaps it was the extra weight of our gear) and needing to use the climate control to demist windows at times - was getting around 2.3-2.4m/kWh.

Next stop was the Ionity chargers at the Aire de Rely services (Autoroute 26). Arrived with 46% charger (118 mile range), and we stayed for around 50 minutes while we had some breakfast, and let the charge reach 96% (286 miles predicted range) before leaving - the software update made this possible, otherwise you would have to wait much longer to do this. The reason for charging so high? The next Ionity station was 214 miles away near Troyes (there is now one inbetween near Reims, but frustratingly, this was only commissioned in time for my return journey).

I started off with confidence - thinking 214 miles to the charger, with 286 in the bank, and having been driving on motorways for several hours the range estimate should be on the money. Not quite. A little way into this leg I'd planned a stop at a services for coffee, knowing there was an old 50kW unit (same as the old Ecotricity ones) that appeared to be working. This was a 30 minute stop, and I only added 4% battery - so not much, but turned out to be very useful! Things were looking ok though, with the Ionity at Troyes 137 miles away, and the range estimated at 169 miles, so crack on we did.

I kept an eye on that 32 mile range buffer, and did notice that it was slowly dropping. Once it got down to just 10 miles of buffer between predicted range and distance to travel, and with an hour of driving still to go, I decided to make some changes. Dropped speed from 75mph to 65 mph and didn't use any more climate control (I was already using it sparingly). This had the effect of lifting the driving efficiency on that leg of the journey from 2.3m/kWh to 2.7m/kWh. The range buffer also started to increase slightly. Started feeling confident again that we would make it to the charger. We pulled into the Ionity chargers with 15 miles of indicated range left, and 6% battery (was feeling thankful for that slow 4% charge a couple of hours earlier). All the Ionity chargers were empty, and within 30 second of plugging in we were charging at 158kW. The chargers were in the car park of a very nice restaurant, and it was midday so we went in there for lunch. 40ish mins later the car had hit 80%, and it made it all the way up to 100% by the time we'd finished lunch (90 mins) - that faster charging above 80% a really helps.

We were over half way now, but we had overcome the charging desert in the middle of the route, so I was relaxed about the rest of the journey. There were Ionity stations every 150 miles of so, plus other options too, e.g. FastNed. These charges were all easy, pausing 20-25 mins on two more stops. Interestingly, the majority of other EVs charging at these sites were from the UK, and it was nice to chat and feel a sense of community with other drivers on their first multi-country trips.

Overall the efficiency of the drive came out at 2.7m/kWh (slightly warmer temps in the afternoon helped I think). Overall, I didn't stop more than previous times I've driven this journey, as I managed to time charging to refreshment/meal breaks.

The journey back was similar, accept that there was an extra Ionity open at Reims, which meant no big gap between ultra rapid chargers. It did become challenging getting close to Calais as we were driving head on to the storms that were hitting the UK at the time, with buffeting cross-winds and heavy rain, which reduced efficiency to 2.1m/kWh!!

For this trip I bought an Emovis Tag for the toll booths, which worked great and means you can breeze straight through the barriers (I was meant to be doing one leg on my own, and doing the hokey cokey to deal with payment on the left-hand side of the car is something to avoid).

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I promised a while back to report back on my Mustang Mach E road trip to the Alps. This was back in mid-February, better late than never for an update (no, it hasn't taken me 6 weeks to get back home).

The journey was from South East London, to Chamonix in France (651 miles) using the Eurotunnel. For those who want a quick summary, I made it there and back without any major trouble. Had to do one long charging leg, which got the anxiety going, but all was well. I mostly used Ionity charging stations and they all worked great. I have the longest range Mach E available (RWD ER) and had the dealer software update the week before I left that unlocks the charging curve above 80% (very useful on this trip).

Only advice I would give is to do do a bit of research on your charging options (have a plan B and C), don't rely on the charging suggestions in Ford's navigation, and then you should have no issues doing long journeys in this awesome car.

For those that want more detail - read on!

Pre-trip, I did research on the chargers I could use on the trip (mostly Ionity), but back up options too, either on the motorway route, or with slight detours if needed. For European travel, I've found the app ChargeMap the best, but I did also use ABRP to double check I hadn't missed a trick. ChargeMap also as a RFID card that gives you access to chargers in France, and I'd used that in previous years with my PHEV - would recommend.

A few notes on driving style/conditions: kept to 70mph for the short drive Folkestone, then in France stuck to around 75mph/120kmh (speed limit is 130kmh). Outside temp was 3C when leaving, and got up to 7C driving through France during the day. Car was in Whisper mode throughout, and use of heating (1-bar of Auto at 21C) used sparingly to help demist windows, and I would pre-heat while nearing the end of a rapid charge. Heated seats and steering wheel used as well. Two people in the car, plus ski/mountaineering gear.

Early start for a pre-dawn Eurotunnel train, with 93% charge showing 292 miles (I don't have home charging, and some issues with local chargers meant it wasn't easy to get it to 100% before leaving). Did a very short top up using the free 50kW at the Eurotunnel but only time for a handful of extra miles as we boarded an early train. On either side of the Channel, driving efficiency was a bit lower than I'm used to (perhaps it was the extra weight of our gear) and needing to use the climate control to demist windows at times - was getting around 2.3-2.4m/kWh.

Next stop was the Ionity chargers at the Aire de Rely services (Autoroute 26). Arrived with 46% charger (118 mile range), and we stayed for around 50 minutes while we had some breakfast, and let the charge reach 96% (286 miles predicted range) before leaving - the software update made this possible, otherwise you would have to wait much longer to do this. The reason for charging so high? The next Ionity station was 214 miles away near Troyes (there is now one inbetween near Reims, but frustratingly, this was only commissioned in time for my return journey).

I started off with confidence - thinking 214 miles to the charger, with 286 in the bank, and having been driving on motorways for several hours the range estimate should be on the money. Not quite. A little way into this leg I'd planned a stop at a services for coffee, knowing there was an old 50kW unit (same as the old Ecotricity ones) that appeared to be working. This was a 30 minute stop, and I only added 4% battery - so not much, but turned out to be very useful! Things were looking ok though, with the Ionity at Troyes 137 miles away, and the range estimated at 169 miles, so crack on we did.

I kept an eye on that 32 mile range buffer, and did notice that it was slowly dropping. Once it got down to just 10 miles of buffer between predicted range and distance to travel, and with an hour of driving still to go, I decided to make some changes. Dropped speed from 75mph to 65 mph and didn't use any more climate control (I was already using it sparingly). This had the effect of lifting the driving efficiency on that leg of the journey from 2.3m/kWh to 2.7m/kWh. The range buffer also started to increase slightly. Started feeling confident again that we would make it to the charger. We pulled into the Ionity chargers with 15 miles of indicated range left, and 6% battery (was feeling thankful for that slow 4% charge a couple of hours earlier). All the Ionity chargers were empty, and within 30 second of plugging in we were charging at 158kW. The chargers were in the car park of a very nice restaurant, and it was midday so we went in there for lunch. 40ish mins later the car had hit 80%, and it made it all the way up to 100% by the time we'd finished lunch (90 mins) - that faster charging above 80% a really helps.

We were over half way now, but we had overcome the charging desert in the middle of the route, so I was relaxed about the rest of the journey. There were Ionity stations every 150 miles of so, plus other options too, e.g. FastNed. These charges were all easy, pausing 20-25 mins on two more stops. Interestingly, the majority of other EVs charging at these sites were from the UK, and it was nice to chat and feel a sense of community with other drivers on their first multi-country trips.

Overall the efficiency of the drive came out at 2.7m/kWh (slightly warmer temps in the afternoon helped I think). Overall, I didn't stop more than previous times I've driven this journey, as I managed to time charging to refreshment/meal breaks.

The journey back was similar, accept that there was an extra Ionity open at Reims, which meant no big gap between ultra rapid chargers. It did become challenging getting close to Calais as we were driving head on to the storms that were hitting the UK at the time, with buffeting cross-winds and heavy rain, which reduced efficiency to 2.1m/kWh!!

For this trip I bought an Emovis Tag for the toll booths, which worked great and means you can breeze straight through the barriers (I was meant to be doing one leg on my own, and doing the hokey cokey to deal with payment on the left-hand side of the car is something to avoid).

Shout if any questions!!!
Thanks for that. Very interesting. How do you get the 80% charging curve unlocked please?
 

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Thanks for that. Very interesting. How do you get the 80% charging curve unlocked please?
Should already be enabled on later builds, and on early ones it’s part of software update 21P22 that a dealer ‘might’ apply if it goes in for another recall. Mixed results so far
 

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Should already be enabled on later builds, and on early ones it’s part of software update 21P22 that a dealer ‘might’ apply if it goes in for another recall. Mixed results so far
Yes, mine was done by the dealer when I took my car in for the roof recall. They didn't manage to do the roof - brought me in even though they didn't have the right parts! At least I got the software updates!!
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