Uncontrolled/Unintended Acceleration on 2023 MME while using single pedal drive **SAFETY ISSUE**

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Yes some fees are waived if you buy another Ford.

But what was described as turning in the keys and walking away is not an early termination. If you take the car back and just drop it off, that’s a voluntary surrender (repossession). It doesn’t matter if you are current or past due on your monthly payments at the time. What happens is the car goes to auction. If we get more than is due the customer gets the overage. If the net proceeds from the sale are less than what is owed then the customer is required to pay the remaining balance.

An early termination is trading in or paying the remaining balance, not just dropping it off.

Yes the OP could ask the dealer or call Ford Credit for the termination amount due.
When I called Ford Credit when the automated voice response asked what I am calling for I said 'lease payoff'. It had me put in the last 4 of my SSN and then it gave me a lease purchase price. I assume anyone can do that to purchase a car early in an RCL agreement. For me with my 23.0 MME GT PE job1 rapid red, nite pony, and charging cable my lease purchase price is currently $34,500 (I rounded) I assume there may be some additional tax or fees. The message said I had to go to the dealer where I got it for an exact payoff. I have no idea how the the payoff was calculated. If anyone knows, please share. I am about 14 months into my 39 month lease. My remaining payments should total around $9700 and my residual is around $28,000 (on the 39 month lease). Guessing this is really the only way out of a lease very early on. I am not looking for a way out early. I was just curious.
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" ...If we get..." (emphasis added)

Interesting choice of wording.

I'm curious, although I don't have a horse in this race (and may agree with your comment).

When you say "we", who are you speaking for or as, a dealer principal or employee, Ford Credit, creditor's counsel, who is "we" in the context of your comment, who are you speaking for?
 

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It's relatively easy to feather the throttle so that a car glides downhill while using 1pd drive; it just takes a few minutes of practice. Contrary to some folks' apparent opinion, the throttle doesn't have to be fully open or full idle.
Yep. And I've even trained myself to feather the throttle in 1 pedal backing up my driveway and into the garage without wrecking the car or the house ... :cool: ?
 

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Yep. And I've even trained myself to feather the throttle in 1 pedal backing up my driveway and into the garage without wrecking the car or the house ... :cool: ?
I’m pretty certain you can get a medal for that.
 

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1 pedal drive does give the best driving experience overall.

Also, using 1 pedal drive encourages you to modulate the pedal slowly when ‘braking’ which increases your odds of using regen vs. friction brakes. Slowing down more gradually will decrease the need for the vehicle to blend in using friction brakes thus increasing your chances of recovering some energy. Could you simulate this using 2 pedals, sure but it’s easier with 1 pedal drive.
None of that is true. 1pd and 2pd use the exact same blended braking system. There is no efficiency benefit to one or the other, it all depends on how aggressively you drive.
 


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The CC system is not robust / safe enough for me to be so sure that it’s always driver error. Here, look at this video I took on the parking lot. According to the car claim and forum members here, it SHOULD NOT be possible to activate CC from stand still and startup. But, in this video it clearly activates from 0 kmh (not resume as it’s freshly started), before automatically accelerating. After the video ended I had to brake quick as it started to accelerate hard.

 

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When I've tried to turn on (normal) cruise control below 15MPH, it won't turn on and tells me I have to be above 15MPH. I wonder why your car allows it to turn on at 0 speed? I did notice there are some icons (the red circle on the right, the 'radar' at the front of the car icon) that are not present on my car.
 

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None of that is true. 1pd and 2pd use the exact same blended braking system. There is no efficiency benefit to one or the other, it all depends on how aggressively you drive.
It’s all true and that’s what I said. Slowing down more gradually and you can simulate using 2 pedals.
 

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I’m not sure how using 1P is relinquishing too much control to the car. If, in the rare occasions, it doesn’t do what I want, I use the brake pedal. As far as moving forward goes, it has never done anything I haven’t told it to do in the last 3 years.
for me at least, it tends to make me lazy in thinking about braking, assuming that the car will always stop correctly. It tends to make me less attentive to it.
 

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" ...If we get..." (emphasis added)

Interesting choice of wording.

I'm curious, although I don't have a horse in this race (and may agree with your comment).

When you say "we", who are you speaking for or as, a dealer principal or employee, Ford Credit, creditor's counsel, who is "we" in the context of your comment, who are you speaking for?
Are you new here? ;)
 

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It's rare, but I had the same thing happen to me twice. Both at a drive-thru.
I passed the ordering and went to the window to pay (yes, exactly the same situation).
I was in One Pedal mode, as I took my foot of the "gas," I felt the car start accelerating and I slammed on the brakes. It's so infrequent, I thought it was me or something getting stuck on the pedal.

So probably similar parking. Slow to a stop or almost stop, then slightly press the accelerator to move forward slowly, take foot off but the car keeps accelerating.
 

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Hoping someone can help. ..
I have a 2023 Mach e premium on lease.
I drive using single pedal mode.
Three days ago I pulled into a parking spot in front of a restaurant in a plaza. When I took my foot off the accelerator the car came to a complete stop (as it should have ) … about a half a second later, before I could put the transmission into park, the vehicle went full throttle and jolted forward up over the curb onto the plaza sidewalk and crashed into a full brick column. I slammed on the breaks as fast as I could, but if the brick column was not there, we would have crashed into the restaurant.
There is damage to the front drivers side of the vehicle. The airbags did not deploy. The beeping sensors never went off. Honestly, the experience scared the crap out of me. We’re lucky no one was injured.

Ford has the car at the dealership now.
they told me that something seems to have malfunctioned. They told me that the car should have deployed the airbags, the sensors should have went off, a deceleration stamp should be logged in the vehicle data and it should be telling ford that the car experienced a collision. None of that happened.
needless to say, they are now telling me that because they can’t mimic the problem, Ford is instructing them to return the vehicle to me.
they have nothing to repair, and are not taking ownership for the damage.
I honestly don’t want to take the car back.
my wife isn’t comfortable driving it anymore as she feels it’s a safety risk.
Not sure what to do. .. thanks
I had the same problem a couple of times backing out of my drive way and turning left to begin my trip. It would suddenly accelerate.

Someone on this forum suggested that I might be hitting the cruise control when I turned. Since then, I am aware that I could accidentally hit the cruise control when turning.
No problem since.



On one occasion I pulled up to park at a drug store and the car was in drive. I reached over to get my prescription, and my foot hit the accelerator causing me to lunge forward into a brick column. $12,000 to fix the small damage to the front end.

My bad.
 

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Are you new here? ;)

:cool: …. Yep, Only been ‘bout a year since I got rotated up from the reppel depple to the line … still trying to learn them there ropes and whose the brass …. :cool:
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