Update on Mach-E launch progress from engineering friends in Mexico

[BlueMach]

Fine. Next time I'll make sure to specify CCS. I had assumed that since we are all talking about charging out Mach Es that I didn't have to specify that I was excluding chargers we can't use.

Can't use them yet anyway.

I don't see how Tesla avoids moving to CCS and then at that point there's no reason not to open the network and just charge higher rates to non-Teslas.

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[eastern refugee]

I stand corrected. That's 1, not zero. Superchargers don't count unless they open them up to us.

I just want to say that this is a MACH E forum. If people want to talk Tesla then go on their forums. You should NOT have to specify any NON Mache chargers.

 

[trutolife27]

I just want to say that this is a MACH E forum. If people want to talk Tesla then go on their forums. You should NOT have to specify any NON Mache chargers.

fact it does say mache. wow mind blown ?

 

[AndyS_OSU]

fact it does say mache. wow mind blown ?

Wait we aren’t all here waiting on the revival of the Chevy Chevette?

 

[janitorjim]

Wait we aren’t all here waiting on the revival of the Chevy Chevette?

waiting on my email about my ford pinto

 

[RyZt]

Somewhat related, I’m a bit surprised coal states like West Virginia haven’t taken to electric vehicles. You can’t run an ICE on coal but you can run a BEV on coal generated electricity. Not green, but would help give a lifeline to an industry important to some states.

Unfortunately there were still NO DCFC chargers in WV last time I checked.

7 Tesla Supercharger sites in West Virginia (Triadelphia (2014), Parkersburg (2019), Charleston (2017), Mt. Hope (2018), Weston (2017), Morgantown (2017), and Huntington(2018)) that pretty well cover the state.

On the CCS side, there's 1 Harley-Davidson dealer near Morganstown that has a single 25 kW ChargePoint CCS unit.

I just want to say that this is a MACH E forum. If people want to talk Tesla then go on their forums. You should NOT have to specify any NON Mache chargers.

The context of that conversation was WV, a coal state, not being as pro-EV as one might expect. In that context, I find it perfectly reasonable to point out there are in fact quite a few DCFC chargers (albeit Tesla only) in the state. I do not agree with hostility against @BlueMach.

 

[ChasingCoral]

The context of that conversation was WV, a coal state, not being as pro-EV as one might expect. In that context, I find it perfectly reasonable to point out there are in fact quite a few DCFC chargers (albeit Tesla only) in the state. I do not agree with hostility against @BlueMach.

Tesla chargers are placed wherever Tesla wants them. EA and other CCS programs work with the states. WV doesn't want to invest a cent of Federal money in EV charging.

 

[All Hat No Cattle]

Some not-so-well-off places in the world have done this with natural gas where a huge proportion of vehicles have been jerry-rigged to run on CNG because it is quite a bit cheaper than gasoline.

LOL, LOL. Do you consider Los Angeles to be one of those not-so-well-off places? J/K.

While it is not well known, there are numerous LNG and CNG stations in the LA area.

Only reason I know it to be true is because I own stock in a major supplier, Clean Energy Fuels.

The vehicles using it are definitely not "jerry-rigged". Here in Las Vegas I drove a CNG powered Chevy pickup, when I worked.

Over 20 years ago.

No offense, but I just thought that was funny. Real "gas stations" below.

 

[Gimme_my_MME]

LOL, LOL. Do you consider Los Angeles to be one of those not-so-well-off places? J/K.

While it is not well known, there are numerous LNG and CNG stations in the LA area.

Only reason I know it to be true is because I own stock in a major supplier, Clean Energy Fuels.

The vehicles using it are definitely not "jerry-rigged". Here in Las Vegas I drove a CNG powered Chevy pickup, when I worked.

Over 20 years ago.

No offense, but I just thought that was funny. Real "gas stations" below.

Yeah you could order an F-150 right from Ford that runs on CNG since 2016

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...04/2016-f150-alternative-fuel-leadership.html

 

[ChasingCoral]

LOL, LOL. Do you consider Los Angeles to be one of those not-so-well-off places? J/K.

While it is not well known, there are numerous LNG and CNG stations in the LA area.

Only reason I know it to be true is because I own stock in a major supplier, Clean Energy Fuels.

The vehicles using it are definitely not "jerry-rigged". Here in Las Vegas I drove a CNG powered Chevy pickup, when I worked.

Over 20 years ago.

No offense, but I just thought that was funny. Real "gas stations" below.

In a pinch you could just stop at any Taco Bell. Now that's a real gas station!

 

[dbsb3233]

it would be a start. Once something like this starts then you have no idea where things can go. In short if green became important enough to change thinking a NEW wheel would be invented.

It'll just come down to what and when better replacements come along, like it does for anything. Demand for oil will shrink some as gasoline demand shrinks due to EVs. Roughly 40% of crude oil goes to making gasoline. The rest to other things.

When we find a better replacement for jet fuel, that will gradually get displaced to. When we find a better replacement for asphalt, that will get gradually displaced. And so on. It's not really a matter of momentum, it's simply a matter of when a better replacement occurs. And that's on it's own timeframe, independent of the fact that batteries finally improved enough to make small/medium motor vehicles competitive.

 

[dbsb3233]

I seen that the Mach E can charge at -10 or lower, so 32 is not bad, especially for L2 (high speed DCFC is a bit more sensitive).

I may be wrong, but in the video I watched, I thought they were referring to -10C, not -10F. That would be 14F.

 

[trutolife27]

In a pinch you could just stop at any Taco Bell. Now that's a real gas station!

comment of the night goes to you lol.

 

[trutolife27]

It'll just come down to what and when better replacements come along, like it does for anything. Demand for oil will shrink some as gasoline demand shrinks due to EVs. Roughly 40% of crude oil goes to making gasoline. The rest to other things.

When we find a better replacement for jet fuel, that will gradually get displaced to. When we find a better replacement for asphalt, that will get gradually displaced. And so on. It's not really a matter of momentum, it's simply a matter of when a better replacement occurs. And that's on it's own timeframe, independent of the fact that batteries finally improved enough to make small/medium motor vehicles competitive.

The funny thing is the big oil companies for the last 10 years are investing in tech and hard stock. They know their days are numbered.

 

[jlauro]

fact it does say mache. wow mind blown ?

So, it's on topic... Paper-mache super charger

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