Update on Mach-E launch progress from engineering friends in Mexico

[Jolteon]

Ford NL already announced that in 2022 more then 50% of the Ford models sold in NL will be EV's. Curious what comes next.

Ford Transit BEV (van) is already announced here.

"EV"s meaning Focus mHEVs and Kuga PHEVs too I'm sure. _EVs.

Ford of Europe likes to call a glorified stop-start system on the Focus "Electrified" when it's just a belt starter-generator on a conventional gas car.

One step better than Toyota's "self-charging" EVs (hybrids), I suppose.

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[timbop]

I would *love* if the next EV was the actual Mustang, especially since it's the last car they have left.

Edge is... enormous. Way too big for me.

The news was that Ford gave one to a guy that mows the lawns of veterans

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

I find it very hard to believe that it would take 4 weeks to get from Mexico City to LA. 1800 miles in 4 weeks with no stops along the way until hitting the US. Maybe 10-14 days max.

Up to 4 weeks. Your car will sit at the Cuautitlán Assembly Plant for an unknown period of time before loading onto the trains. The trains have speed limits, varying from 10 mph to above 60. Figure 2 days of actual train movement minimum. Plus border stops for customs and mandatory Frunk checks to ensure no illegal shrimps are entering the country. Then offloading at the SoCal terminus. Then transfer to trucks for delivery throughout the SoCal area. Then the dealer's prep them then they call you. Unless it's my dealer, but I digress.

Up to 4 weeks. You don't live in Waimea, Hawaii, or Feuchtwangen, Germany, so my guess is much faster.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Ok, so Apple Maps has a good picture of the site and from there you can do a bit of speculative imagery analysis. The largest parking lot appears to have angled rows that have two cars in each row for about 100 cars per column. And it looks like, based on the cars that are parked there in the image, and the painted stripes in the lot and the smaller lot above, the lot has a total capacity of about 1,400 cars. I believe I read someplace earlier that they were planning on running 1,000 cars per week? If so, then they should be shipping cars about once a week to once every 10 days, once they begin producing units for sale at production volume. If production starts the 3rd week of October, as has been speculated, and NA gets units before Europe, and FE and Premium are run first, then possibly 9,000 units would be produced by Christmas. Of course, remember, it takes about 4 weeks to get from that lot to your local ford store, so probably only 5,000 Mustang Mach Es are going to actually be in customer’s hands in 2020!

Unless Ford does factory delivery!

I checked ABRP. EA needs to do some work on chargers in Mexico before that’s possible.

 

[Jolteon]

I checked ABRP. EA needs to do some work on chargers in Mexico before that’s possible.

EM you mean

 

[ChasingCoral]

EM you mean

It’s EA not EUSA. Still applies, sort of.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

It’s EA not EUSA. Still applies, sort of.

One of the hardest things to get used to in all these threads was EA (Electrify America), the rather reluctant and somewhat incompetent hero of CCS nationwide charging, and not EA (Electronic Arts), the Darth Vader was a good guy in comparison company of the gaming world.

 

[janitorjim]

Are you considering how long it will take the ICE agents to check every Frunk for stowaways?

internal combustion engine agents are very much against allowing the mach e into the US

 

[SnBGC]

What Ford has lead us to believe. What they have informed the public is that the pack is still 98.8 KWh but they are segmenting some off to account for degradation. The tesla epa range is false and not as per standard EPA scalars and as such over states the true range and is not close to being realized in the real world. Ford has no need to compete with bogus results. We also suggest you look at the Tesla model S and its 100 kwh pack to understand why some here jumped onto the MME. I see no need yet to tell Ford what to do until we see what they have done.

Agree.
The usable amount designated by Ford has nothing to do with safety. It is because of the warranty requirements. That reserve is there to offset degredation. Ford has a pretty darn good idea how many charge cycles the battery pack can manage before it begins to run foul of the warranty requirements.

 

[SnBGC]

It’s EA not EUSA. Still applies, sort of.

Isnt it EC in Canada?
I figured EA would cover all three countries too......but I guess I was mistaken.

 

[jhalkias]

Are you considering how long it will take the ICE agents to check every Frunk for stowaways?

That's why the divider is bolted in.

 

[JamieGeek]

Up to 4 weeks. Your car will sit at the Cuautitlán Assembly Plant for an unknown period of time before loading onto the trains. The trains have speed limits, varying from 10 mph to above 60. Figure 2 days of actual train movement minimum. Plus border stops for customs and mandatory Frunk checks to ensure no illegal shrimps are entering the country. Then offloading at the SoCal terminus. Then transfer to trucks for delivery throughout the SoCal area. Then the dealer's prep them then they call you. Unless it's my dealer, but I digress.

Up to 4 weeks. You don't live in Waimea, Hawaii, or Feuchtwangen, Germany, so my guess is much faster.

Don't forget the day it sits at the dealer's Level-2 charging--and if they have more than 1 Mach-E it will be waiting in line.

(If my dealer tells me to wait a day for it to charge I'll likely tell them "as long as it has about 50 miles on it I'm good--I'll give you full stars on Ford's survey if you get it to me ASAP" Then *I* can sit staring at it while it charges on *my* level-2 )

 

[ChasingCoral]

Don't forget the day it sits at the dealer's Level-2 charging--and if they have more than 1 Mach-E it will be waiting in line.

(If my dealer tells me to wait a day for it to charge I'll likely tell them "as long as it has about 50 miles on it I'm good--I'll give you full stars on Ford's survey if you get it to me ASAP" Then *I* can sit staring at it while it charges on *my* level-2 )

Hopefully they ship them out fully charged so all that is needed is a top up on arrival.

 

[Marcel]

Hopefully they ship them out fully charged so all that is needed is a top up on arrival.

Hopefully more like about 50% charged, who knows how long it stands and too high is killing for the battery

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

Ok, so Apple Maps has a good picture of the site and from there you can do a bit of speculative imagery analysis. The largest parking lot appears to have angled rows that have two cars in each row for about 100 cars per column. And it looks like, based on the cars that are parked there in the image, and the painted stripes in the lot and the smaller lot above, the lot has a total capacity of about 1,400 cars. I believe I read someplace earlier that they were planning on running 1,000 cars per week? If so, then they should be shipping cars about once a week to once every 10 days, once they begin producing units for sale at production volume. If production starts the 3rd week of October, as has been speculated, and NA gets units before Europe, and FE and Premium are run first, then possibly 9,000 units would be produced by Christmas. Of course, remember, it takes about 4 weeks to get from that lot to your local ford store, so probably only 5,000 Mustang Mach Es are going to actually be in customer’s hands in 2020!

Unless Ford does factory delivery!

9000 units is almost half of the 20,000 NA units planned.

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