Will the 5s limiter ever be removed?

[OON7]

The 24 GT w/ performance upgrade is slightly faster 0-60mph and everything after that blows away the 21-23. The difference on the highway is incredible if you need to gun it and go after hitting highway speeds. With my previous 22 GTPE it just felt like any other decent car after 72mph and if someone else also floored it at that speed you probably wouldn't be passing them. With the 24, wow, not a lot that can keep up with that kind of instant acceleration at high speeds.

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[areacode413]

anyone have a side by side video of a 24+ next to a 23 or less in a 1/4 mile drag race? It’d be neat to see how the numbers work out visually.

As a 23gt owner please do not embarrass my ride lol.?

 

[hartmms]

I wonder if there will ever be a day where one could swap out these components to enhance the performance and remove this limit. I'm sure this would require lots of software changes, so unless Ford releases the info under any "right to repair" requirement or someone reverse engineers the software, we probably won't ever see upgrading as a reality.

 

[OON7]

I wonder if there will ever be a day where one could swap out these components to enhance the performance and remove this limit. I'm sure this would require lots of software changes, so unless Ford releases the info under any "right to repair" requirement or someone reverse engineers the software, we probably won't ever see upgrading as a reality.

Sadly seems impossible, the motors are different and I wouldn't be surprised if that plays a part.

 

[Mach1E]

I wonder if there will ever be a day where one could swap out these components to enhance the performance and remove this limit. I'm sure this would require lots of software changes, so unless Ford releases the info under any "right to repair" requirement or someone reverse engineers the software, we probably won't ever see upgrading as a reality.

You could probably do it today.

But it would be cheaper to trade in for a 2024+.

The issue with the aftermarket is the tuning.

I would bet that swapping in larger electric motors would cost less than throwing a supercharger on a gas car.

I think the tuning is the only reason the aftermarket hasn’t done it.

Which sucks, because if tuning shops don’t adapt they’ll become the next Blockbuster video.

You have been able to buy complete kits to turn a gas car into an electric one for years.

I would think a simple motor swap would be way easier than that.

 

[Nathanml]

I’m going to second a comment that someone else made in this thread where Ford mentioned that a certain part of the power delivery hardware was the cause for the five second limit, not the motors. However, when they mentioned that the motors were upgraded, they never mentioned that the other hardware that was previously mentioned as the problem was upgraded as well. And I apologize I cannot remember the specific name of that hardware.

My point is that the five second rule on the older model GTPE is a bunch of nonsense and they need to send out a software update to get rid of that.

I would agree that the car is not capable of the performance upgrade like the newer versions, but they can certainly get rid of the five second limit. 2023 GTPE owner here!

 

[x31moose]

I have a 2025 Mach-E Rally and the 5-second seems still there as today a Mercedes EQS AMG bested me. Or could it just be that EQS boosted its 649 hp and 700 lb-ft of torque to 751 hp and 752 lb-ft using the RACE Start feature?

 

[Mach1E]

I have a 2025 Mach-E Rally and the 5-second seems still there as today a Mercedes EQS AMG bested me. Or could it just be that EQS boosted its 649 hp and 700 lb-ft of torque to 751 hp and 752 lb-ft using the RACE Start feature?

Not sure what you’re talking about.

The EQS AMG is just plain faster than us. It has significantly more horsepower as you noted. It’s also $150,000+.

That doesn’t mean you have a 5 second limit. With the rally your power doesn’t cut back until 10+ seconds or over 110 mph.

 

[x31moose]

It's good to know it's 10+ seconds until power is cut back. But the EQS is 6000 lbs and the Rally 4900 lbs the published 0-60 around for Rally is 3.3 seconds and the EQS AMG 3.4 seconds. So at 1000 lbs more weight, the increase in horsepower doesn't seem that significant?

 

[MatchaGT]

I have a 2025 Mach-E Rally and the 5-second seems still there as today a Mercedes EQS AMG bested me. Or could it just be that EQS boosted its 649 hp and 700 lb-ft of torque to 751 hp and 752 lb-ft using the RACE Start feature?

Eqs amg is 0 to 60 in 3.0, 1/4 in 11.4 at 119. It's faster. ?

 

[Mach1E]

It's good to know it's 10+ seconds until power is cut back. But the EQS is 6000 lbs and the Rally 4900 lbs the published 0-60 around for Rally is 3.3 seconds and the EQS AMG 3.4 seconds. So at 1000 lbs more weight, the increase in horsepower doesn't seem that significant?

Not significant?

751 hp is a heck of a lot more than the 480 hp we have.

Lb/hp generally gives you an idea of acceleration.

The EQS AMG is 8 lbs/hp vs your 10.2.

Just another explanation as to why it’s faster.

Eqs amg is 0 to 60 in 3.0, 1/4 in 11.4 at 119. It's faster. ?

Yup.

And here is the source for that run:
https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-amg/eqs53

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