Purchasing and Programming another FOB

CopperRobot

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jason
Joined
Feb 21, 2021
Threads
8
Messages
70
Reaction score
45
Location
United States
Vehicles
Ford Mach E
Country flag
Simply no way for me to trust PaaK. Demand two fobs. Not one ounce of sense in delivering these cars with one fob.
Sponsored

 

Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
Strong word but I feel the same way too; two FOBs should have been included PaaK or not. We’re talking about a $60k machine here.
 

generaltso

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 24, 2020
Threads
69
Messages
14,814
Reaction score
27,070
Location
Vermont
Vehicles
2021 MME Premium AWD SR Infinite Blue
Country flag
Strong word but I feel the same way too; two FOBs should have been included PaaK or not. We’re talking about a $60k machine here.
Of course they should have included two fobs. But they didn’t, and we know that going into it. I don’t think most of us are in a position to be demanding things unless we’re willing to walk away. I’m not, especially not for $150.
 

Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
Simply no way for me to trust PaaK. Demand two fobs. Not one ounce of sense in delivering these cars with one fob.
Follow the money! Ford “cheaped” out by making this decision. Their reasoning about using PaaK was flawed as far as I’m concerned. No, I’m not going to walk away but I do believe if enough of us told Ford what we want and how we feel they might listen. I still maintain it was a flawed decision on their part.
 


Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
Of course they should have included two fobs. But they didn’t, and we know that going into it. I don’t think most of us are in a position to be demanding things unless we’re willing to walk away. I’m not, especially not for $150.
I certainly did not “know that going in” when I ordered my car; far from it!
 

generaltso

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 24, 2020
Threads
69
Messages
14,814
Reaction score
27,070
Location
Vermont
Vehicles
2021 MME Premium AWD SR Infinite Blue
Country flag
I certainly did not “know that going in” when I ordered my car; far from it!
But you haven’t bought the car yet, and you know it now. If they charged $150 more for the car would you have still ordered it? If so, just pretend they did and spend the $150 on a second fob.
 

Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
But you haven’t bought the car yet, and you know it now. If they charged $150 more for the car would you have still ordered it? If so, just pretend they did and spend the $150 on a second fob.
Oh I already bought a second FOB; $92.00. That's not the point nor is not buying the car. Ford's decision was purely a monetary one as far as I'm concerned and poor one at that. I'm not comparing this to "cheaping out" on a Ford Pinto with the gas tank exploding in a rear end crash which cost people their lives but it still stands to reason that two FOBs would be included just like EVERY OTHER car I've owned and ESPECIALLY a $60k one at that! I don't know where you got that if you're not happy with Ford's FOB cop out you then should automatically "walk away" from the deal. We are venting on this board at something that was done by Ford and even though I have invested only $500 at this point, the early adopters DID learn about it when they started to take delivery and I'm sure they were as shocked as we all were. But after waiting months for their cars they certainly weren't going to refuse delivery over the second FOB not being there. That doesn't mean it wasn't wrong on Ford's part or that we shouldn't complain about it here and to Ford because quite frankly, IMHO, we should and I have.
 

generaltso

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 24, 2020
Threads
69
Messages
14,814
Reaction score
27,070
Location
Vermont
Vehicles
2021 MME Premium AWD SR Infinite Blue
Country flag
I don't know where you got that if you're not happy with Ford's FOB cop out you then should automatically "walk away" from the deal. We are venting on this board at something that was done by Ford
I got it from the post (not yours) instructing us to demand a second fob. You can't demand something if you aren't willing to walk away. Sure, you can continue to vent on this forum like plenty of other people are. But there are so many other things to complain about that don't have such an easy $150 fix that endlessly complaining about the fob seems like a waste of energy to me. But to each their own, so have it.
 

Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
I got it from the post (not yours) instructing us to demand a second fob. You can't demand something if you aren't willing to walk away. Sure, you can continue to vent on this forum like plenty of other people are. But there are so many other things to complain about that don't have such an easy $150 fix that endlessly complaining about the fob seems like a waste of energy to me. But to each their own, so have it.
I will and I did (to Ford). "Demanding" is a strong word (like I said) but Ford should do the right thing IMHO and I feel we should all expect that just like we do with all the other cars we own. But, you feel differently about this obviously so I do agree, to each his own and we shouldn't waste anymore energy here and channel our dissatisfaction to Ford. Enough venting by me over this right now.
 

Maquis

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dave
Joined
Dec 21, 2020
Threads
30
Messages
4,431
Reaction score
6,130
Location
Illinois
Vehicles
2021 Mach E4X, 2023 Lightning Lariat ER
Country flag
I agree, I didn't demand anything, but when Ford sent me a survey about my MME experience, they definitely heard about it. If that kind of feedback is widespread, maybe those guys with GTs on order will get two? :D
 

Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
I agree, I didn't demand anything, but when Ford sent me a survey about my MME experience, they definitely heard about it. If that kind of feedback is widespread, maybe those guys with GTs on order will get two? :D
Hear, hear! ?
 

dbsb3233

Well-Known Member
First Name
TimCO
Joined
Dec 30, 2019
Threads
54
Messages
9,341
Reaction score
10,871
Location
Colorado, USA
Vehicles
2021 Mustang Mach-E FE, 2023 Bronco Sport OB
Occupation
Retired
Country flag
I do think Ford probably pulled the trigger on not including a 2nd fob a little too soon. Would have been more prudent to wait a model year or two until PAAK was more proven, IMO.

But I also cringe when I hear terms like "demand" and "cheaped out". Want a 2nd fob? Fine, buy one like many of us are doing. Just like many of us are buying floor mats, and other accessories.

Every extra cost in a product raises the price. Sure, Ford could have included a 2nd fob... and a heat pump... and seat tilt... and an even bigger battery... and a roof shade... and a hundred other extras that would have added $thousands to the price. But they didn't, because they were trying to keep it within a target price point for potential buyers. That's not "cheaping out", it's making decisions on what to include (and not include) in the overall product to keep it within a price point.
 

Bookworm214

Well-Known Member
First Name
Kim
Joined
Mar 11, 2020
Threads
7
Messages
361
Reaction score
378
Location
North Myrtle Beach, SC
Vehicles
Rapid Red Premium Mach-Ex
Occupation
Retired Truck Driver
Country flag
But they didn't, because they were trying to keep it within a target price point for potential buyers. That's not "cheaping out", it's making decisions on what to include (and not include) in the overall product to keep it within a price point.
This is the key point people are missing when they complain about "what we didn't get".
 

Illinibird

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 13, 2020
Threads
40
Messages
1,563
Reaction score
1,445
Location
Frankfort Illinois
Vehicles
2015 Acura MDX Adv; 2016 Titanium Fusion Hybrid
Occupation
retired Endodontist (root canal specialist) and Clinical Assistant Professor
Country flag
I do think Ford probably pulled the trigger on not including a 2nd fob a little too soon. Would have been more prudent to wait a model year or two until PAAK was more proven, IMO.

But I also cringe when I hear terms like "demand" and "cheaped out". Want a 2nd fob? Fine, buy one like many of us are doing. Just like many of us are buying floor mats, and other accessories.

Every extra cost in a product raises the price. Sure, Ford could have included a 2nd fob... and a heat pump... and seat tilt... and an even bigger battery... and a roof shade... and a hundred other extras that would have added $thousands to the price. But they didn't, because they were trying to keep it within a target price point for potential buyers. That's not "cheaping out", it's making decisions on what to include (and not include) in the overall product to keep it within a price point.
I do think it was a monetary decision and a poor one at that. If you don't like "cheaping out" then fine, pick another phrase; I'm sorry. And I DID spend the $92 on a second FOB and bought one just like many of us HAD to do because we wanted two of them. To me this wasn't some sort of "wish list" item we would like to have included, it should have been a standard included item with the car just like it is with all the other cars we own. I don't think including a second FOB had any measurable impact on the price point of our cars either (I'd love to see the wholesale cost of a FOB because retail prices vary so much). Just my $0.02 and we're all entitled to our own opinions.

PS - I do agree with you about Ford pulling the trigger too soon.
Sponsored

 
 




Top