Filling a gas-powered vehicle can still be cheaper than charging an electric one

[machefan]

Since the news reported it must be true.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/filling-gas-vehicle-cheaper-electric

Anyone want to buy my First Edition RR MME?

I just can't stand charging anymore, such a waste of my time and money.

You can't make this stuff up, but they hide the small print which maybe lets them print this stuff.

"Fast Charging Stations High Rates"

PS - Nice picture of a MME as the example in the article.

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[Blue highway]

Since the news reported it must be true.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/filling-gas-vehicle-cheaper-electric

Anyone want to buy my First Edition RR MME?

I just can't stand charging anymore, such a waste of my time and money.

You can't make this stuff up, but they hide the small print which maybe lets them print this stuff.

"Fast Charging Stations High Rates"

PS - Nice picture of a MME as the example in the article.

the article raises some important questions.

Does the author realize that the edge case they cite is unreal and therefore the thrust of the headline and article are completely misleading?

Or are the author and editors morons?

 

[Maquis]

It’s Faux News, soooooo……

 

[Jbkimmel]

I think it would be soul crushing to have to write these types of “it might be true, or it might not” stories that are everywhere these days. That’s not impartial, it’s just lazy.

 

[Raymondjram]

They have not taken into account that most EV owners charge in their garages or at their homes for low rates. Some charge for free. This last point is what attracts many new users that already have solar energy systems installed.

 

[KevinS]

Yep, there goes Fox, owning the libs again... /s

 

[AKgrampy]

Let me just say I have a Mach on the way and for the most part I will charge at home. I have seen some comments that charging at a public charger can cost around $0.40/kWh. So let’s compare. A car that gets 33 MPG will cost $4.25 to get 33 miles right now. An EV that get 3 miles/kWh would cost $4.40 for the same distance. In cold weather the ICE will be even a better price as the mi/kWh goes down on the EV. Then on top of everything you do pay more for the EV. Maybe I am in right field but the article is essentially correct. If saving money is the only driving force and a person can’t charge at home an ICE can be cheaper. I believe there is a bigger picture than just cost for the decision to go EV though. Just my thought here and feel free to pile it on if you believe I am off base.

 

[Lynsey]

Let me just say I have a Mach on the way and for the most part I will charge at home. I have seen some comments that charging at a public charger can cost around $0.40/kWh. So let’s compare. A car that gets 33 MPG will cost $4.25 to get 33 miles right now. An EV that get 3 miles/kWh would cost $4.40 for the same distance. In cold weather the ICE will be even a better price as the mi/kWh goes down on the EV. Then on top of everything you do pay more for the EV. Maybe I am in right field but the article is essentially correct. If saving money is the only driving force and a person can’t charge at home an ICE can be cheaper. I believe there is a bigger picture than just cost for the decision to go EV though. Just my thought here and feel free to pile it on if you believe I am off base.

Again, most people charge at home. I charge at super off peak hours and I am in CA that has high rates. I only pay 10-11 cents/kWh. That's a big difference. Plus a person that is buying a mach e, probably isn't buying a car that gets 33 mpg. There aren't that many that actually get that. What car would you be driving that is a small suv/crossover that gets 33 mpg? Especially if you are driving mainly city driving, not highway.

 

[Mach1E]

Again, most people charge at home. I charge at super off peak hours and I am in CA that has high rates. I only pay 10-11 cents/kWh. That's a big difference. Plus a person that is buying a mach e, probably isn't buying a car that gets 33 mpg. There aren't that many that actually get that. What car would you be driving that is a small suv/crossover that gets 33 mpg? Especially if you are driving mainly city driving, not highway.

Hybrid…….

It’s just another example of how electric cars aren’t the solution for everything.

They’re amazing for daily driving near home.

But if you’re talking road trips, long distances, especially in the cold, they’re actually at a disadvantage.

Making everyone go all electric causes issues. I really think a PHeV is a better solution for most.

 

[Socalsp3]

Let me just say I have a Mach on the way and for the most part I will charge at home. I have seen some comments that charging at a public charger can cost around $0.40/kWh. So let’s compare. A car that gets 33 MPG will cost $4.25 to get 33 miles right now. An EV that get 3 miles/kWh would cost $4.40 for the same distance. In cold weather the ICE will be even a better price as the mi/kWh goes down on the EV. Then on top of everything you do pay more for the EV. Maybe I am in right field but the article is essentially correct. If saving money is the only driving force and a person can’t charge at home an ICE can be cheaper. I believe there is a bigger picture than just cost for the decision to go EV though. Just my thought here and feel free to pile it on if you believe I am off base.

Nobody in their right mind would get an EV if they can't charge at home. Or they can't get an ID4 or ioniq5 and charge at ea for free.

 

[Lynsey]

Hybrid…….

It’s just another example of how electric cars aren’t the solution for everything.

They’re amazing for daily driving near home.

But if you’re talking road trips, long distances, especially in the cold, they’re actually at a disadvantage.

Making everyone go all electric causes issues. I really think a PHeV is a better solution for most.

I had the Subaru Crosstrek phev. It was ok. Lots of things I didn't like. Agree is depends on lifestyle and location. My work is 5 miles away, other than that I'm just putting around town. Hardly ever/never take roadtrips. So for the amount of trouble it is to charge during the rare long trip is worth having a great car the rest of the time. Plus where I live gas is like $6/gallon now. Also, weather isn't really a worry in southern CA. Coldest it gets here is 45 at night and that is super cold. My car is in the garage, so never really gets that cold. Totally depends on lifestyle. But for a so cal gal, it's perfect. So much fun to drive. On an off note, I'm a nurse and with the covid surges, we often take breaks in our cars. It's great, heated seats, etc without turning on the car, just using aux. To get the seats to actually heat up in my Subaru I had to actually turn on the car...even in the phev that had the electric range to use. When I did it really took a lot off of my electric range in just 30 mins.
Just depends I guess.

 

[Lynsey]

Nobody in their right mind would get an EV if they can't charge at home. Or they can't get an ID4 or ioniq5 and charge at ea for free.

I would never get an EV if I couldn't charge at home, even if it was free....no way. Love just plugging in when i get home, it charges later at super off peak hours and then warms the cabin and preconditions the battery be for I leave for work. What more could I ask for?

 

[JCHLi]

Well, technically, it CAN be more expensive. They didn't say it WAS more expensive...

 

[Engelbert]

Personally, I don’t know a single living soul who owns an EV, AND lacks at-home charge capability, AND pays $0.40/kWh. Since they charge exclusively on the road, they either own a Tesla or get a membership with a company like EA, thereby paying much less.

Surely there are places where that’s not so possible/convenient (yet), and then some other people who don’t understand how to easily lower their high speed charge costs.

Of course, there are also people who drive a Camry hard enough to lower the fuel economy below that of an Explorer. Not too hard to do in the city, depending on which available engine is in each. So it “can be” cheaper per mile to fuel the SUV than the smaller and lighter car…. if, if, if.

The convenient tyranny of “can be.”

 

[dml105]

They really compared a Ford Escape hybrid running in eco mode to a freakin' Mach-e charging only at DCFC stations at the non-member rate?

It's clearly a hit piece to give some red meat to the people who typically consume that site. Look at the comments.

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