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I've just notice in this video that energy efficiency will be the same in all modes, contrary to other brands that go from Eco-Normal-Sport, you gain range in Eco mode compare to Sport mode . :rolleyes:
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Curious, do electric cars with one-pedal driving automatically turn on the brake light when slowing down, or does it only initiate when using the brake pedal?
That depends on the car. The Bolt turns the brake lights on during deceleration but once it comes to a stop the lights go out. I believe on a Tesla they stay on.

On the Mach-E they will stay on and the friction brakes will hold the vehicle in place until you press the accelerator again.
 

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I've just notice in this video that energy efficiency will be the same in all modes, contrary to other brands that go from Eco-Normal-Sport, you gain range in Eco mode compare to Sport mode . :rolleyes:
Ford has said that all 3 modes are equally as efficient (in multiple videos).
 

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That depends on the car. The Bolt turns the brake lights on during deceleration but once it comes to a stop the lights go out. I believe on a Tesla they stay on.
So if you take your foot off the go pedal and come to a complete stop without hitting the brake, the car does not hold you and additionally, people my crash into you?
 

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So if you take your foot off the go pedal and come to a complete stop without hitting the brake, the car does not hold you and additionally, people my crash into you?
In the Bolt, there is no automatic hold of the car by the friction brakes like in the MachE. The car however does not move in place after you're stopped and it "holds" itself in place. Personally, I move my foot to the brake pedal to illuminate the brake lights if someone is behind me once I've stopped. I *think* I'm looking forward to the MachE behavior, but will have to try it to know for certain.
 


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Question for someone with EV driving experience. I cannot recall reading this but does one-pedal driving come to a complete stop at some point and is just a matter of getting used to the feel of it?
Yes and yes. I love it and almost never touch the brake in my Bolt!
 

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I've just notice in this video that energy efficiency will be the same in all modes, contrary to other brands that go from Eco-Normal-Sport, you gain range in Eco mode compare to Sport mode . :rolleyes:
I think that was discussed in one or more of the web thingys as well.....

They are careful not to call it a driving "mode" but use the word "experience" instead. I presume this basically means they have re-mapped the TPS input data to change the tip in and tip out points as well as relative values. So, nothing really changes......just how sensitive or muted the throttle input is in relation to a different setting.

This along with other changes such as steering input, regeneration levels, ambient sound and lighting can make for a different feel to the driving experience.
 

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So if you take your foot off the go pedal and come to a complete stop without hitting the brake, the car does not hold you and additionally, people my crash into you?
Correct: The car may roll if on an incline and people's inclination to crash into us is the same as someone sitting there with a stick shift, stopped, in neutral, with their foot off the brakes.

The Bolt is really paranoid with it's electronic e-brake: It will engage it if it thinks it may roll. I've been at a stop with my foot off the brake when the e-brake engages because the car moved slightly.
 

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Correct: The car may roll if on an incline and people's inclination to crash into us is the same as someone sitting there with a stick shift, stopped, in neutral, with their foot off the brakes.

The Bolt is really paranoid with it's electronic e-brake: It will engage it if it thinks it may roll. I've been at a stop with my foot off the brake when the e-brake engages because the car moved slightly.
Interesting, didn't think about a manual so I guess it isn't as bad as it sounds. We know the Mach-e will use the friction brakes to hold, so presumably the tail lights will be on. In fact current Ford cars, including Mach-E I think, has an auto hold. I tried it test driving an Explorer. Basically, once you brake and come to a complete stop, you can take your foot off the brake and the car will just keep you there. Awesome for the long drive-thru line at Raising Cane's. I think the Mach-E will have that option if you don't use 1-pedal, and I guess there really isn't a reason to not have it if you are using 1-pedal.
 

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Interesting, didn't think about a manual so I guess it isn't as bad as it sounds. We know the Mach-e will use the friction brakes to hold, so presumably the tail lights will be on. In fact current Ford cars, including Mach-E I think, has an auto hold. I tried it test driving an Explorer. Basically, once you brake and come to a complete stop, you can take your foot off the brake and the car will just keep you there. Awesome for the long drive-thru line at Raising Cane's. I think the Mach-E will have that option if you don't use 1-pedal, and I guess there really isn't a reason to not have it if you are using 1-pedal.
I always thought of the Accelerator in an EV as the clutch. The clutch reacts almost the same way as the drag brake.
 

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I think that was discussed in one or more of the web thingys as well.....

They are careful not to call it a driving "mode" but use the word "experience" instead. I presume this basically means they have re-mapped the TPS input data to change the tip in and tip out points as well as relative values. So, nothing really changes......just how sensitive or muted the throttle input is in relation to a different setting.

This along with other changes such as steering input, regeneration levels, ambient sound and lighting can make for a different feel to the driving experience.
Yes I know about that but my questionning is more about range in between modes, if efficiency is equal in all mode then there's no difference of range between Unbridled and Engage vs another brand between Eco and Sport where there will be a diiference in range???
 

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Ford has said that all 3 modes are equally as efficient (in multiple videos).
Yes ... but.

If you listen to what Darren says, all three driving modes are similarly efficient. There may be some slight imperceptible difference. However, the driving modes tend to encourage different driving styles that may lead to differences.

For example, they have said the acceleration mapping in Whisper is much more gentle than in Unbridled. Whisper will tend to encourage sedate driving. In contrast, the immediate response of the accelerator to the pedal movement in Unbridled will tend to make you want that horse to run. That will be less efficient than the sedate driving in Whisper.
 

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Yes ... but.

If you listen to what Darren says, all three driving modes are similarly efficient. There may be some slight imperceptible difference. However, the driving modes tend to encourage different driving styles that may lead to differences.

For example, they have said the acceleration mapping in Whisper is much more gentle than in Unbridled. Whisper will tend to encourage sedate driving. In contrast, the immediate response of the accelerator to the pedal movement in Unbridled will tend to make you want that horse to run. That will be less efficient than the sedate driving in Whisper.
That's what I was thinking too. Meaning, as long as you accelerate at the same speed, then you get the same efficiency no matter what mode you're in. But the more aggressive modes allow (maybe even encourage) you to accelerated faster. And when you do, it burns more juice. But if you baby it in Unbridled, it the same result as Whisper.

And either way the regen probably produces the same energy, since the brake pedal applies regen first (unless you really smash it). So for normal slowing, it's still the same regen whether triggered by lifting off the accelerator or pressing the brake pedal.
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