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Hello all. I am posting my email to Ford execs from last week here in the hope that someone might have further advice or that Ford might take notice, as I have not yet received a response.


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To Whom It May Concern:

I purchased a brand new 2022 Mustang Mach-E Premium AWD on Saturday, November 19, 2022 at Woodbridge Ford in New Jersey. This was my first experience with this dealership and my first Ford. While my sales experience was pleasant, my experience after driving off the lot has been extremely frustrating and disappointing.

While my wife and I finished up the paperwork for the sale, the salesperson configured the vehicle and the FordPass app on my phone. It took several tries to finish the authentication process (in hindsight, this was a signal of things to come), but ultimately everything worked and we drove home.

By the time we got home, however, the FordPass app was no longer updating, instead saying that the car was in "deep sleep" mode (even though it obviously wasn't). FordPass has not worked since. As I am sure you are aware, the app is critical for an EV, so that I can monitor charging status, set and change schedules, etc.

I called FordPass that day and they said that my car required an update that the dealer could provide (and so I planned to call the dealer first thing Monday morning). Over that weekend, however, I also noticed that (1) there was no drop-down menu when I touched "Connected Vehicle Features" on the screen (and so all of those features were unavailable) and (2) Hands-Free BlueCruise wasn't working (and there was no "expiration date" in the menu settings, suggesting that it had not been installed properly).

On the morning of Monday, November 21, I called the dealer and was told to bring my car in at 3:00pm. During that day, I called Ford again and was told that the problem might stem from the fact that the dealer had not reported the vehicle to Ford as "sold," so I called the salesperson and asked him to resolve that issue (my understanding is that he did). When I arrived at the dealership's service location at 3:00pm, I was told it was too late for them to help me. No one could explain why I was told to arrive at 3:00 or why I had wasted my time.

I went back to the dealer on November 23 at 7:30am. My understanding is that the technician tried to update the "gateway module," but that the update would not work. I was told that he was in contact with Ford via an online portal (and that no phone contact was available), but that there was no way to call Ford for advice. I was told a response from Ford would come within 3-5 days and that they would let me know when they heard back.

As I had not heard back from the dealer, I called them again on December 1. Apparently, there had been a response from Ford, but (to my frustration) no one had reached out to me.

I went back to the dealer at 7:30am on December 2. Ford's advice to the technician did not work and, apparently, Ford then suggested another fix (TSB 22-2404, which is prescribed for 2021 models, even though my car is a 2022) involving an "adapter" that the dealer did not have (and that they did not know when they would receive). After additional pushing from me, the dealer reached back out to Ford via the online portal to ask for permission to simply replace the "gateway module." As I understand it, a Ford representative then reached out to the technician by phone and, after additional conversation, provided this permission.

I was told by the dealer that the part was in stock in a warehouse, that it would arrive in 2-3 days, and that installation on December 9 should not be a problem. I called the dealer on December 7 to confirm that the part had arrived - it had not. I called the dealer again on December 8 to confirm that the part had arrived - it had not. My understanding is that the part has still not arrived, and that all they can tell me is that it is "in transit." There seems to be no end in sight.

While the dealership may be doing all it can do to help, I hope that you agree that being made to wait indefinitely for a fix for a brand new car is absolutely unacceptable (especially when it's not even clear that the fix is going to work). Anything that you can do to help facilitate the resolution of this matter (and provide appropriate compensation for my trouble) as soon as possible would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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As an update, I called the dealer again on Friday and Saturday, the gateway module still has not arrived, they are unable to provide any updates. While I understand that, especially these days, specialized car parts do not magically appear, the lack of transparency and urgency in this situation has been very disappointing.
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Is the car itself functionally working, other than your connection problems with FordPass?
If not, what are those problems?
 

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Parts availability affects everyone.

You can set charging schedule in the car.
 
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Is the car itself functionally working, other than your connection problems with FordPass?
If not, what are those problems?
I've had a few strange charging issues (suddenly stops charging, then starts again, etc.), but in general it does seem to be driving properly. The problems are primarily with FordPass (which I see as critical for an EV, even if others may not), every feature listed under "Connected Vehicle Features," and Hands-Free BlueCruise. The car is also not receiving any updates.

The car is literally brand new. A brand new car should work as intended (and how can I trust it when it hasn't worked properly since day one?). Ford should be doing all they can to make it right. All I'm really looking for is information and transparency, and I just keep getting pushed off and ignored.
 


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Parts availability affects everyone.

You can set charging schedule in the car.

As I've said, I'm just looking for transparency and information, neither of which have been provided here. And I think the situation is different when the car hasn't worked properly since the second it rolled off the lot.

I realize I can set charging schedules in the car. I have. But the features of a brand new car should work properly, or the manufacturer should work with the customer to make things right.
 

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I've had a few strange charging issues (suddenly stops charging, then starts again, etc.), but in general it does seem to be driving properly. The problems are primarily with FordPass (which I see as critical for an EV, even if others may not), every feature listed under "Connected Vehicle Features," and Hands-Free BlueCruise. The car is also not receiving any updates.

The car is literally brand new. A brand new car should work as intended (and how can I trust it when it hasn't worked properly since day one?). Ford should be doing all they can to make it right. All I'm really looking for is information and transparency, and I just keep getting pushed off and ignored.
Many of us waited MONTHS for an update. Your car is weeks old. The lack of an update appearing may in fact be fine.

Information and transparency may be a reasonable expectation, but good luck with that.
 
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Many of us waited MONTHS for an update. Your car is weeks old. The lack of an update appearing may in fact be fine.

Information and transparency may be a reasonable expectation, but good luck with that.

I really couldn't care less about new updates right now. I'd just like the car I purchased to work as intended, or I'd like Ford to tell me when that might be able to happen.
 

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I'd suggest reading this - https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...are-willing-to-look-up-info-for-others.10230/

and sending a DM to one of the people that can lookup your VIN and see what's going on with modules as far as updates pending, etc.

But your expectations in today's supply chain world are simply not going to happen with any manufacturer. Some cars sit for months awaiting parts.

You can also put in a call to Ford, ask for the BEV team, and get a case opened. And @Ford Motor Company may be able to help.
 

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Have you tried using the chat function on the Ford Pass app? I was having some issues and they have been pretty helpful and also quick to answer. Click on Account and Help. It give you options for chat or call. I believe the folks answering the chat are trained on the FordPass app. I don't know what your experience would be with calling but I was satisfied with the help the chat people gave me.
 
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Have you tried using the chat function on the Ford Pass app? I was having some issues and they have been pretty helpful and also quick to answer. Click on Account and Help. It give you options for chat or call. I believe the folks answering the chat are trained on the FordPass app. I don't know what your experience would be with calling but I was satisfied with the help the chat people gave me.

Thanks for the response/suggestion. I've actually spoken to FordPass twice (it was the first thing I tried) and both people I spoke to were helpful but ultimately said that the issue was outside of their control. The first told me it needed an update from the dealer, the second said that they couldn't see my "subscriptions" and so it seemed the dealer hadn't marked the car as sold in Ford's system. The latter at this point certainly doesn't seem like the problem, so I'm focused on the former.
 
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I'm sympathetic to your woes, but why do you consider Ford Pass "critical?" Remote start? PAAK?
Really, all of the above. Look, I'm aware that I can use the car without these features; my frustration comes from the fact that the features were broken from the beginning and the fact that I can't seem to get any information about when the issues might be resolved.
 

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Ford pass not working. Hmm, I have had a few issues with ford pass app through out the year. One time it was not receiving car info. One time it will no longer detect car in charge mode when plugged. Reinstalling the app and relink with the car fixes it.

Your car is new. So it may be more than simple software glitches. Well just drive the car for now while the parts are getting delivered. At least it is not bricked like the HVBJB issue.
 

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Well just drive the car for now while the parts are getting delivered. ...
Yes to driving the car and enjoying it. But...
I'm not even sure he needs the Gateway module hardware to be replaced. It could be that the OP went at them so hard about OTA updates and FordPass they offered the part replacement to get him off their backs for a little while.
I would suggest researching the forums about workarounds and other apps that can fill in where FordPass is lacking (ABRP, etc). And the carry the FOB like you did for every car before this one.
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