Drive for two hours - Charge for an hour road trip.

[azerik]

It's at the dealer without the 12v hooked up. Hopefully they see that. It appears very very little was ever done by the dealer in CA.

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[agdad]

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"One time at band camp"

 

[kltye]

First of all, please stop confusing kW and kWh - it makes things hard to understand. kW is the instantaneous power the car is charging. kWh is energy - the total amount of power over a period of time, used to determine the capacity or "size" of a battery pack.

Secondly, I don't understand these threads - do people seriously not realize that DCFC chargers aren't the most reliable thing in the world? Literally just look at Plugshare and look for DCFC along your route, figure out if it's reliable enough to rely on; plan for alternates if it's not. Simple math will tell you how much energy you need to get from point A to point B, since the car's miles per kWh reading is generally accurate. I don't have at-home charging, live in a cold part of the country, and only once did I have a tense experience with a roadtrip - when it was literally in the single digits during the first winter in the car.

The "this car is perfect around town" folks are hilarious. If an 88kWh EV is perfect around town, what about the Bolt or the Leaf? Do you guys use that to drive around your private golf course? I guess more people are trombone repair folks than I imagined.

 

[Logal727]

I would say don't road trip without pre-planning. Those who fail to plan, plan to fail. The infrastructure is not there to just wing it.

I've taken several 2,000 mile (round trip) road trips in the Mach-E. It's an excellent road trip car if you plan ahead.

it's very satisfying being propelled by electrons rather than boom boom juice

 

[jeffMachE]

The "drive for 2 hours" part is real in the winter. I have the same spec car and I've done a few trips where the best I can do is 1.6 mi/kWh - so roughly 115 miles usable between charges. However, I've still been able to charge at 90+ kW even with temps in the teens - sometimes it takes trying 2 or 3 different chargers to get that. What's really frustrating is getting an EA charger that simply will not go above 45 kW. BTW, same trip in the summer and I get almost 3 mi/kWh so usable range exceeds 200 miles.

 

[Phil Martin]

On a 350 mile freeway road trip in 35 degree weather I’m getting less than 2 miles for each percent charge. This means I’m super charging for 45 minutes at 75 kWh (on a 350 charger) for every 2 hours of driving. Add in the time to divert to a charger, find one that’s actually working (trying 3 to get 1 to work ), available, connect and start charging, it’s more like drive for two hours and handle charging for an hour in a Walmart parking lot.. And spend 15 minutes to find a charger on 3 different apps….

Stressful.

Lesson learned - use the Subaru for road trips!

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Honestly, this isn't news, didn't you know this before the big purchase? It's the main reason I don't have a BEV, I'm not going to hang around a charger pray it works and then wait an hour. The whole CCS charging system is a mess. It's going to take years to improve until it's somewhat useful. In the meantime a PHEV gets you electric around town and stress-free gas for roadtrips so you don't have to buy another car for roadtrips.

 

[voxel]

The infrastructure is not there yet, don't know how many years it will take but as of now you are correct, it is not there yet to be able to find a working charger and charge at will

Does it even matter that much? 2 hours of driving and 1 hour of charging will happen with an EV like Tesla... okay maybe a little more efficiency with the heat pump so a bit more driving and a tad less charging.

With an ICE car - if your bladder allows (mine does not) - you can drive for 3 hours straight.

 

[Phil Martin]

Recently, I had an issue with a Electrify America set of chargers were all 6 of them were out of commission. So I called technical support and they were very apologetic and also said that they were dramatically increasing the number and quality of chargers over the next few years then I read about that they were actually going to do and it was going to be a drop in the bucket in terms of what we actually need. Also, true of the federal government program and state and local programs probably 1/10 of what we’re actually going to need in the next few years.

Even if they double the number of chargers overnight, it's not going to help much when half of them don't work.

Can you imagine Ford salesman saying "sure you can do roadtrips, there's lots of chargers but only half the chargers work and when they do there's a good chance you won't get the rated output."

Then there is the infamous: "You'll arrive more refreshed from having to stop frequently for an hour."

 

[AllenXS]

On a 350 mile freeway road trip in 35 degree weather I’m getting less than 2 miles for each percent charge. This means I’m super charging for 45 minutes at 75 kWh (on a 350 charger) for every 2 hours of driving. Add in the time to divert to a charger, find one that’s actually working (trying 3 to get 1 to work ), available, connect and start charging, it’s more like drive for two hours and handle charging for an hour in a Walmart parking lot.. And spend 15 minutes to find a charger on 3 different apps….

Stressful.

Lesson learned - use the Subaru for road trips!

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The infrastructure is not there yet, don't know how many years it will take but as of now you are correct, it is not there yet to be able to find a working charger and charge at will

Is this the premature electrification that gm was going on about?

 

[machev]

It's the infrastructure and not the car that is lacking. Every 2 months, I make a 330-mile drive from Connecticut to Rochester, NY. I usually stop at the mid-point to DCFC to 80% and this past weekend with the temperatures in the 20's, headwinds and snow showers I couldn't complete the second half of the trip. With 20 miles to my destination, I had to stop at 2% and 5 miles of "Range" for 15 minutes. But things we get better really soon. On the I-90 New York thruway they are rebuilding all the service stations and I see the new EV chargers but they are not operational yet. With EV chargers every 50 miles I think the infrastructure will address the concerns

 

[hybrid2bev]

Um, relative to what? Certainly not as compared to any comfortable ICE. And not as compared to more efficient Teslas or 800v EVs, either.

Relatively speaking, the Mach E is one of the crappier road tripping cars.

We drove from Detroit to Gulf Shores Alabama and back, last spring and again in the summer. It was the same driving route we would have taken in our Explorer. The charging stops were perfectly aligned with bathroom needs and meal stops. The car was charged ready to go before we were. We got a free charge at the hotel so the first 2.5 hours of driving on day two were free.

That’s a great road tripper to us.

Wrote about it here with details:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...p-detroit-to-orange-beach-al-with-data.16427/

 

[kltye]

800v EVs aren't immune to cold batteries, either. I've seen EV6s or Ioniq 5s charging at 60-70kW at a low-ish SoC when it was cold.

 

[Tampamike]

We drove from Detroit to Gulf Shores Alabama and back, last spring and again in the summer. It was the same driving route we would have taken in our Explorer. The charging stops were perfectly aligned with bathroom needs and meal stops. The car was charged ready to go before we were. We got a free charge at the hotel so the first 2.5 hours of driving on day two were free.

That’s a great road tripper to us.

Stop! You’re obviously not in sync with the negative slant of this thread.

 

[hybrid2bev]

Stop! You’re obviously not in sync with the negative slant of this thread.

We really love road tripping in the Mach-E. Sorry to be such a Positive Polly. ??

 

[Logal727]

We drove from Detroit to Gulf Shores Alabama and back, last spring and again in the summer. It was the same driving route we would have taken in our Explorer. The charging stops were perfectly aligned with bathroom needs and meal stops. The car was charged ready to go before we were. We got a free charge at the hotel so the first 2.5 hours of driving on day two were free.

That’s a great road tripper to us.

Wrote about it here with details:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...p-detroit-to-orange-beach-al-with-data.16427/

That dude just loves to denigrate everyone else's opinions, like his opinion is the only one. Mach-E is a great road tripping car, we haven't had any issues.

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