Post here if you have an active FDRS account and are willing to look up info for others

[Mike G]

This is fantastic news, thanks so much!
Based on what you found, it looks like White got updates just because it's an older car (by 4 months), even though both were bought in November. And Green has gotten no updates because it really doesn't need any, or at least the updates available for it aren't being sent to anyone yet.
Now why couldn't my dealer or Ford Engineering have simply told me this?

Interns? ?‍

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[MikeC]

Low tire pressure warning, and a 12V battery that is indicating a 43% SOC.

That 12V battery is indicating that the voltage is 15V but the SOC is very low. So either the 12V battery is dying or the BMS Learned Values need to be reset. In fact it probably wouldn't hurt to try resetting the BMS learned values to see if it really is a dying battery. You won't get any OTAs (if any were available) with a 12V battery with that low a SOC.

BMS LV Reset:
Without pressing the brake pedal, press the start button to put the vehicle in Accessory mode.

With your foot off the brake, flash the high beams with the stalk 5 times, and then depress and release the brake pedal 3 times, and observe the small red battery icon in the instrument cluster flash three times to acknowledge.

Press the start button to shut the vehicle off.

Start the vehicle and go out for a drive to completely charge the battery up.

Here's the list of available software updates in FDRS for this VIN:

Make sure you have automatic updates toggled on, and a schedule set to apply any inhibit OTAs that may be sent to your car.

Mike

Low tire pressure warning, and a 12V battery that is indicating a 43% SOC.

That 12V battery is indicating that the voltage is 15V but the SOC is very low. So either the 12V battery is dying or the BMS Learned Values need to be reset. In fact it probably wouldn't hurt to try resetting the BMS learned values to see if it really is a dying battery. You won't get any OTAs (if any were available) with a 12V battery with that low a SOC.

BMS LV Reset:
Without pressing the brake pedal, press the start button to put the vehicle in Accessory mode.

With your foot off the brake, flash the high beams with the stalk 5 times, and then depress and release the brake pedal 3 times, and observe the small red battery icon in the instrument cluster flash three times to acknowledge.

Press the start button to shut the vehicle off.

Start the vehicle and go out for a drive to completely charge the battery up.

Here's the list of available software updates in FDRS for this VIN:

Make sure you have automatic updates toggled on, and a schedule set to apply any inhibit OTAs that may be sent to your car.

Mike G, thank you so much! You are a gentleman and a scholar. Owe you a bottle of fine malt if you are ever in Scotland.

The low tyre pressure was caused by a tiny leak from the valve where it passes through the wheel. I’ve literally just taken the wheel off and put it in to the local garage to get a new valve fitted.

Thanks a million for the reset instructions. I’ll give it a go. Many thanks again.

 

[Mike G]

Mike
Educate me and others please.
Your picture shows software that's pending for my car, and I assume that those are updates that have got released after thr car's manufacture.
Are they in a queue of sorts awaiting their turn so to speak? How does Ford schedule them?
I received the one you mentioned on February 2nd or so, so shouldn't the next one be on its way?

Thank you

There are software updates released to address concerns that Ford has seen in the field, based on reports from customers, and things that they have taken notice of from data received from vehicles when they report to the cloud (Vehicle Health Reports). As well as issues discovered during internal testing.

Those fixes are tested and released as updates that could be applied using Ford's FDRS system that techs use to diagnose and update vehicle software.

A subset of those updates are packaged and sent out to specific model year and VIN groups as OTAs.

Not all of the module updates in FDRS for a specific VIN's OTA 'analog equivalents' are sent out as OTAs. But all of the updates listed in FDRS are VIN specific and 99% of the time are desirable to have applied as an update.

So since (for whatever internal reasons) all updates cannot be sent as OTAs, some of these updates remain in the list of available updates in FDRS until a tech applies them in response to a TSB, SSM, CSP, or diagnostic result stemming from a customer concern about undesirable behavior or technical issue with their vehicle. If the vehicle is in warranty, this update is paid for by Ford. If not the customer pays the labor.

The third alternative is to purchase the necessary gear and FDRS software subscription and perform the updates yourself (as many of us do).

OTA rollouts have slowed down in the last two years. Dramatically so in the case of '2021 models. In fact, I would not even consider buying a '2021 model now unless the salesman could show me a completely empty available software list from FDRS, and a Sync version showing as "Sync 1270" from the About Sync page. Only then would I talk price.

 

[Mike G]

Thank you for looking this up!
Wow, I knew I was behind but...

You mention TSBs - will that help me get my updates done by a dealer without having to spend?
I am aware of the glass recall. I'm on a wait-list with a Ford dealer to have that done (they need the glass guys and I want a loaner...planets will align soon).

Oh, and no, I didn't get this from a Ford dealer.

Well the TSBs we're talking about are now 'expired' for want of a better term. Ford have now said that any vehicle that exhibits this behavior that would have been addressed using that TSB (attached) should now be addressed using standard workshop manual procedures.

You might consider purchasing a ESP before scheduling the car in to have that looked at. Cause it could get spendy. I know you weren't an owner until recently but several of us have speculated in the last couple of years as to what was going to happen when all of the '21 models with the "OTA 1.7.0 Stuck APIM" issue were out of warranty and the original owners never got it fixed and/or the shop they took it to couldn't or wouldn't do it.

Those chickens are back....

You may want to call the Ford EV Team (800-392-3673) to see if they can provide a path forward since the symptoms are unmistakable that you've got a corrupted data issue stemming from a faulty OTA.

Oh, and one last point.....any analyst who monitors Ford's backend servers can see by the module software revisions of your car's systems that you have this issue. It's right there for all to see. Why they haven't done more to address this is beyond me.

 

[pranavs17]

Hello Mach E forum members,

My 2022 SR RWD started giving me an error on Friday "Stop Safely Now". Can someone here be kind enough to help me look up the DTC's? VIN # 3FMTK3RM1NMA63137

 

[Mach-Lee]

Hello Mach E forum members,

My 2022 SR RWD started giving me an error on Friday "Stop Safely Now". Can someone here be kind enough to help me look up the DTC's? VIN # 3FMTK3RM1NMA63137

Looks like you have a failed TPMS sensor, this is likely also causing the 12V battery to drain. Battery voltage is very low at only 10.0V. 12V battery is at about 60% health so it's about time to replace it.

You also have a failed front camera heating element. This could be causing camera to be blocked by snow or ice causing a blocked camera and collision assist unavailable error messages.

Suggest fixing the failed TPMS sensor, getting the IPMA camera defrost fixed (which might mean windshield replacement), and replacing your 12V battery.

 

[rugedraw]

Thank you for looking this up!
Wow, I knew I was behind but...

You mention TSBs - will that help me get my updates done by a dealer without having to spend?
I am aware of the glass recall. I'm on a wait-list with a Ford dealer to have that done (they need the glass guys and I want a loaner...planets will align soon).

Oh, and no, I didn't get this from a Ford dealer.

@Mike G On 7/1 & 7/2, a dealer tried to update his APIM and it failed. They generated a repair validation code as if they were going to replace his APIM, but it never happened. They updated many of the ancillary modules on 7/1, too.

@Sargepepper I think you can fix this yourself with a Mongoose. I know you are new here and I don't want to overload you with information, but if you hit dead ends with the dealer and want to take matters into your own hands to fix this, let me know. I run a Mongoose loaner program where I can loan you one at no costs if you don't want to spend $600 buying one. Waiting list is maybe 6-8 weeks out right now, so that'll give you time to get acclimated with the process.

 

[pranavs17]

Looks like you have a failed TPMS sensor, this is likely also causing the 12V battery to drain. Battery voltage is very low at only 10.0V. 12V battery is at about 60% health so it's about time to replace it.

You also have a failed front camera heating element. This could be causing camera to be blocked by snow or ice causing a blocked camera and collision assist unavailable error messages.

Suggest fixing the failed TPMS sensor, getting the IPMA camera defrost fixed (which might mean windshield replacement), and replacing your 12V battery.

Thank you so much for looking into this.

The TPMS error is because my car is currently on Winters and there are no sensors on these wheels.

The windshield had a crack in 2023 summer and I had to get it replaced. Looks like it was not done well which may be causing the problem with the sensor.

I am not sure why the 12V should have gone bad in just over 2 years.

 

[Sargepepper]

@Mike G On 7/1 & 7/2, a dealer tried to update his APIM and it failed. They generated a repair validation code as if they were going to replace his APIM, but it never happened. They updated many of the ancillary modules on 7/1, too.

@Sargepepper I think you can fix this yourself with a Mongoose. I know you are new here and I don't want to overload you with information, but if you hit dead ends with the dealer and want to take matters into your own hands to fix this, let me know. I run a Mongoose loaner program where I can loan you one at no costs if you don't want to spend $600 buying one. Waiting list is maybe 6-8 weeks out right now, so that'll give you time to get acclimated with the process.

Thank you for suggestion on the Mongoose - I'd love to take you up on it...but I think geography may get in the way - I'm in New Jersey...Your profile says Miami?

 

[HughJazzol]

I'm sorry to hijack.
My car display constantly displays the ota icon that's 2 arrows and a triangle to the left of the temperature. If I click on the software updates menu, it shows me the update that finished on February 2nd as completed, 24-Pu0121-ftdi-fx.

So is the icon just showing me that an update completed? Or something else?

 

[rugedraw]

Thank you for suggestion on the Mongoose - I'd love to take you up on it...but I think geography may get in the way - I'm in New Jersey...Your profile says Miami?

I would mail it to you as I've done for countless others around the country. Details are below:

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...mming-vehicle-interface-lending-thread.13145/

I can add you to the waiting list now and when I get to you in 6-8 weeks, if you don't need it anymore, I would just move on to the next person on the list. Whatever it is, with a Mongoose, we can help you fix it.

 

[rugedraw]

I'm sorry to hijack.
My car display constantly displays the ota icon that's 2 arrows and a triangle to the left of the temperature. If I click on the software updates menu, it shows me the update that finished on February 2nd as completed, 24-Pu0121-ftdi-fx.

So is the icon just showing me that an update completed? Or something else?

Yes, that screen will always show you the details of the your last OTA, or say "up to date" if no active OTA is in queue or recent history. The icon with the two arrows and triangle is the connectivity icon indicating your connectivity is working.

 

[Peyole]

After asking for a VIN check the other day I made an offering of a fast charging adapter to the OTA deities and looks like it worked as a message that 10.1.1 installed when I pulled into my garage today. Out of curiosity I was wondering if you could check my VIN again so I could see if the TCU was the only one that fell off. Thank you so much.

3FMTK3R71NMA30391

 

[Bodega]

Hello guys, having major issues with my car, just got another Service Vehicle Soon message with no throttle power and app says powertrain failure while car prompt says “shift system fault”.

vin is 3FMTK4SE3MME03086

 

[Mach-Lee]

Hello guys, having major issues with my car, just got another Service Vehicle Soon message with no throttle power and app says powertrain failure while car prompt says “shift system fault”.

vin is 3FMTK4SE3MME03086

There is a problem with the shift solenoid for the parking pawl. It can't retract due to some circuit failures, which means the car is stuck in park. You'll probably have to have it towed, and the the dealer will have to replace the parking pawl solenoid in the rear motor.

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