Adding Seat Tilt?

[BlueMach]

It sounds annoying. My '08 Mustang had it, even. Maybe their new seat manufacturer couldn't do it?

Couldn't do it for the price they wanted to pay, I suspect.

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[generaltso]

I'm clearly in the minority hear, but I'm not bothered by the lack of tilt at all. My current Outlander and my wife's Pacifica both have power seats, and I honestly have no idea if either of them has tilt. I guess I never checked. I'll find a comfortable position and never touch it again. Providing a ton more variables would just take me longer to find a good position. I have a much easier time deciding between 3 ice cream flavors than 100

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

I'm clearly in the minority hear, but I'm not bothered by the lack of tilt at all. My current Outlander and my wife's Pacifica both have power seats, and I honestly have no idea if either of them has tilt. I guess I never checked. I'll find a comfortable position and never touch it again. Providing a ton more variables would just take me longer to find a good position. I have a much easier time deciding between 3 ice cream flavors than 100

well, your position on ice cream flavors is crazy ?? but I agree on the tilt.

before COVID-19 I travelled almost every week for work, which meant a LOT of different rental cars. Almost none of them had seat bottom tilt forward/back, or at least in any way I could find, and the few that did always just ended up in the middle position anyway. So I have high confidence I will never miss it in the Mach-E.

However, that said - I don't want to dismiss what people who really truly want it think. If this is a problem for you, I'm sorry to hear that. Just saying it's not a problem for me, at least it wasn't in the test drive I did, and I doubt it will be in the future.

One thing to compare to by the way - the convertible Mustangs don't have power seat backs, because they need to quickly fold forward to get in/out of the luggage shelf back seat of the car. This means you could spend over $45K on a Mustang GT convertible, and not have "real" power seats. (they do have tilt though ?‍)

 

[krafty81]

I am really interested in the idea of spacers to give just a little rise to the front of the seat. I understand many will not even notice. I just like a little pressure there - makes it easier on my back during long drives. Just need to figure out who can do it.

 

[Jimrpa]

This is something I whined about ever since I discovered it on the show cars. I’ve maintained that the Mustang Mach E Premium seats should at least be at parity with the Mustang Coupe seats (which are 10-way (no power recline obviously)and ventilated). By the way, degrees of motion are counted as:
Seat movement front-back (2)
Seat bottom up-down (2)
Seat bottom front up-down (2)
Seat bottom rear up-down (2)
Seat back recline back-fore (2)
Lumbar in-out (2)
The Mustang coupe, my Escape, and almost all modern cars have 12-way power driver seats per the above (some May skimp out on the power lumbar). Very low end cars cut costs by putting in 8 way power seats, like the Mustang Mach E, or even 6 way or 4 way power seats. It’s a cost-saving measure. It removes 1 motor and 1 switch from the seat. So, we’re getting the same, fine, luxurious seats found in the EcoSport ?

 

[ChasingCoral]

As you change the seat from a low position to a high position, it feels like the tilt of the bottom (the part your rear-end and legs rest on) changes. I feel like the front of the seat raises at a slower rate than the back of the seat. I will be looking into adding some sort of spacer to permanently raise the front on inch when I get my MME.

It does. The seat has an angular tilt. I have found that the Mach E seat adjustment works just fine. I suggest you try it first, then see if there is an issue for you.

 

[efisher]

How would you “custom tilt” it?

Add a foam cushion.

 

[ajmartineau]

If there are 4 attachment points for the seat, it should be straight forward to add spacers in the front along with stronger longer bolts. I’ll have to take a long trip first to see if it’s really worth the mod.

 

[markboris]

My last three vehicles, 2011 Ranger, 2014 Escape, 2016 Focus RS and my current 2020 GT500 don't have any seat tilt adjustment. I don't seem to mind as I seem to sit comfortably in all of them.

 

[krafty81]

It does. The seat has an angular tilt. I have found that the Mach E seat adjustment works just fine. I suggest you try it first, then see if there is an issue for you.

Sorry you are wrong. I have tried multiple. You cannot raise the forward part of the seat as most cars do.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Sorry you are wrong. I have tried multiple. You cannot raise the forward part of the seat as most cars do.

Read critically. He never said you could independently raise the forward part of the seat. He said the Mach-e seat adjustment works just fine. And further suggested people give it a whirl before condemning the seat comfort.

Plus, @ChasingCoral, already took delivery on his MME. He might know what he’s talking about.

If, however, the lack of 10 way seats is of critical importance, than some people may need to rethink.

 

[ajmartineau]

I have no need to rethink anything. I modify.

 

[VegStang]

When I tried it at the road show the seat seemed ok, but clearly ymmv. I believe the next rev or year of the car may have bottom tilt added to the driver seat, along with 4-way lumbar. It does seem like a bean counter move for the first version.

My Pacifica has it, along with the previous cars we have had, all considerably less expensive. Not sure I will miss it even though I always tended to use that adjustment to get it "just right."

 

[ChasingCoral]

Sorry you are wrong. I have tried multiple. You cannot raise the forward part of the seat as most cars do.

Read critically. He never said you could independently raise the forward part of the seat. He said the Mach-e seat adjustment works just fine. And further suggested people give it a whirl before condemning the seat comfort.

Plus, @ChasingCoral, already took delivery on his MME. He might know what he’s talking about.

If, however, the lack of 10 way seats is of critical importance, than some people may need to rethink.

@Kamuelaflyer is correct. I did not say it had 10-way adjustment or independent seat height and tilt. I said the seat has an angular tilt. It appears the engineers changed the way the single motor is installed so that it does not do either of the separate actions accomplished with a traditional seat motor configuration. Rather than raise/lower the seat vertically or adjust the tilt independently of the height, the seat seems to be mounted off-axis, resulting in a motion that tilts the seat at an angle, changing height and tilt in a way that provides appropriate comfort to most drivers. I have found that the Mach E seat adjustment works just fine and the seat angle is quite comfortable.

The 8-way seat adjustment isn't a new discovery. It was discussed when people were trying out the Mach E during the Mach E Tour events where people generally agreed that this new configuration works quite well:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...m-mach-e-road-show-in-vermont.1743/post-48376
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ea-mach-e-tour-11-21-november.1985/post-57421

However, this complaint does come up repeatedly, often by people who have not tried the Mach E seats or generally assume 10-way seats are better than 8-way seats.
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/better-seats.2319/

 

[ARK]

well, your position on ice cream flavors is crazy ?? but I agree on the tilt.

before COVID-19 I travelled almost every week for work, which meant a LOT of different rental cars. Almost none of them had seat bottom tilt forward/back, or at least in any way I could find, and the few that did always just ended up in the middle position anyway. So I have high confidence I will never miss it in the Mach-E.

However, that said - I don't want to dismiss what people who really truly want it think. If this is a problem for you, I'm sorry to hear that. Just saying it's not a problem for me, at least it wasn't in the test drive I did, and I doubt it will be in the future.

One thing to compare to by the way - the convertible Mustangs don't have power seat backs, because they need to quickly fold forward to get in/out of the luggage shelf back seat of the car. This means you could spend over $45K on a Mustang GT convertible, and not have "real" power seats. (they do have tilt though ?‍)

I agree with the sentiment that most people will probably be fine without this adjustment because as you say, on cars that do have this capability, you probably just end up somewhere in the middle anyway and Ford has done a good job pre-adjusting the seats here.

If someone’s preference is to put a significant angle either up or down on their seats, this lack of up/down adjustability could be more of an issue since it won’t let you do an unusual configuration like that.

My biggest criticism of the seats so far, and it’s not even really significant, is the lack of side bolstering where when you take a turn fast you feel like you are not being held in place as much as you should be. But the seats are very comfortable, they would not be out of place in a Lincoln (which is where my quibble would be, the seats would ideally be a shade or two more sport oriented than they are as it is still a Mustang, even on the non-GTs).

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