Help me decide: Mach-E or Model Y

[ab13]

Totally agree, and I have driven both with more time behind the wheel of the Model Y. I need to go back to the Ford dealer to see if I can get a more extended test drive. I really liked the Mach E, but driving up and down El Camino Real was not the most exhilarating way to test a car. The Model Y felt like a bullet on wheels, a lot of fun to drive.

Do parking tests and U turns in areas where you normally might, the turning circle of the Y is largest and much bigger than that of a Prius.

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[pepper]

Reading your posts, I feel a kinship. I'm a hugely data-driven person too, even if the "data" points turn out to be more emotional feelings on particular items. I get you, and I resonate on a lot of your points for both cars. As a way of introduction, this is my first Ford and I've had about 15 cars in my life. I'm not a die-hard by any means.

Regarding the charging network…

Terrific detailed feedback, thank you!

 

[JamieGeek]

When I bought and ordered I was told 4 months
Now Im going on 6 months
I finally got a build date in a month and a half but have it changed (delayed twice)
Realistically, Im looking at 8 to 9 months since ordering !

UNACCEPTABLE !

Are you sticking with the Mach-E or did you cancel your order?

If you didn't cancel your order then the timeframe is acceptable to you and you're lying.

Prove that it is unacceptable and cancel your order. Since "unacceptable" does mean that you don't accept it....

 

[fightinag]

Are you sticking with the Mach-E or did you cancel your order?

If you didn't cancel your order then the timeframe is acceptable to you and you're lying.

Prove that it is unacceptable and cancel your order. Since "unacceptable" does mean that you don't accept it....

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[timbop]

When I bought and ordered I was told 4 months
Now Im going on 6 months
I finally got a build date in a month and a half but have it changed (delayed twice)
Realistically, Im looking at 8 to 9 months since ordering !

UNACCEPTABLE !

WOW.

Certainly you have been in a position more than once in which circumstances far beyond your control meant you could not follow through on your commitments? I suggest shifting your focus to a broader perspective and perhaps research the topics of "global supply chain disruptions" and "pandemic".

 

[JamieGeek]

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What?

Look I'm just saying you are not going to get much sympathy from the many on here who put down a reservation on November 2019 only to receive their cars 1st, 2nd (or, yikes) 3rd quarter this year. Well over 15 months later.

Some of them are even happy enough to put down a reservation on a F-150 Lightning which isn't due, checks notes, until next Spring.

Like Tim mentioned: Just drive around the Detroit area and you can see evidence of all the automotive supply chain disruption. Brand new cars and trucks parked everywhere waiting for parts. Just a week ago we were up in Flint and the GM plant parking lots up there were overflowing with GMC and Chevy pickups waiting for parts....

Be happy you get a car at all....

 

[Scrannel]

Just FWIW the front of the model Y is aluminum, not plastic.

 

[silverelan]

Advantage Tesla Model Y

• Known reliability. Tesla has been making EVs for a while now, and has straightened out a lot of early production issues. Ford is just getting started, so there are likely to be a lot more issues for the first few years. Will a 2022 Mach-E be as reliable as a 2022 Model Y? What will the difference in cost of ownership be in 10 years?
• Polished UI. The touchscreen is really snappy, whereas the Mach-E touchscreen is sluggish. The Tesla software seems a little more refined too.
• Supercharger network. I have a lot more confidence that I won’t get stranded on long trips.
• Joy of driving. I’ve seen plenty of YouTube videos of people testing these two cars side by side and stating they enjoy driving the Tesla more, especially comparing the one pedal driving. Granted most of these people are Tesla owners, but not all. I have taken a test drive in both, and Tesla even gave me an overnight test drive. I will admit, the Tesla did feel a bit more responsive on the pedal, though it wasn't a huge difference.
• Performance. The Model Y base model does 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds, and comes with AWD standard. The Mach-E RWD model I ordered does it in 6.1. Yes, I could upgrade to the AWD model and achieve 4.8, but this is an extra $2.7K. (Aside, I actually prefer the longer range and cheaper price which is why I’m not upgrading the Mach-E.)
• Cargo capacity. 68 cu ft vs 60 doesn’t seem like much, but it could make the difference. I am choosing a hatchback for a reason: I want to carry things.
• Autopilot. As of today, Tesla’s autopilot is more capable than Ford’s version. Ford is still developing theirs, so this could change. I have no interest in FSD.

I think most of us on the forum have cross shopped the Model Y vs. MME. Teslas are popular for some good reasons and in particular, the Tesla Model Y is a terrific vehicle with practicality for days. The rear cargo space, available factory hitch and manufacturer / aftermarket accessories industry are really great to maximize daily life with the MY.

That said, Tesla Model Ys are uninspiring to look at (remember that Elon Musk had zero passion for the car leading up to and even at the reveal). Also, they're EVERYWHERE. From experience I can tell you that having the same car as everyone else is tiring and maybe even a little depressing. The running joke in my family is to call out when we see yet another "Tesla Model White".

The Mach-E is gorgeous. Its looks will turn heads, including your own. It is beautifully fierce, even while parked. Don't you want to look at the car in your driveway and just drool over it? You'll be grinning like a fool at every stoplight as you goose the throttle. Seeing another Mustang Mach-E will be something special, not just for you but the other driver too. You'll be satisfied with the Tesla Model Y but you'll be in love with your Mustang Mach-E.

 

[hybrid2bev]

Look I'm just saying you are not going to get much sympathy from the many on here who put down a reservation on November 2019 only to receive their cars 1st, 2nd (or, yikes) 3rd quarter this year. Well over 15 months later.

THIS!!

 

[trutolife27]

What?

Look I'm just saying you are not going to get much sympathy from the many on here who put down a reservation on November 2019 only to receive their cars 1st, 2nd (or, yikes) 3rd quarter this year. Well over 15 months later.

Some of them are even happy enough to put down a reservation on a F-150 Lightning which isn't due, checks notes, until next Spring.

Like Tim mentioned: Just drive around the Detroit area and you can see evidence of all the automotive supply chain disruption. Brand new cars and trucks parked everywhere waiting for parts. Just a week ago we were up in Flint and the GM plant parking lots up there were overflowing with GMC and Chevy pickups waiting for parts....

Be happy you get a car at all....

pretty much point on.

 

[EVS]

One thing I didn't see mentioned yet.
Since the OP lives in SF bay area where Teslas are as common as Corollas few years ago, uniqueness can be a factor for some. Believe it or not, I've only seen one Mach-e driving on the road so far while I see at least 3-5 Teslas every time I drive! A lot more on 30mins+ drives.

If I were buying an EV here and comparing between otherwise similar cars, I'd be buying something a little bit more unique, with some character. But that's just my weighting system. There are obviously many who want to blend in.

As for the delivery date: A big factor will be the chip supply. Ford has already met initial pent-up demand for Mach-e and production volume has been increased also. It "should" improve supply soon.

 

[seattledan206]

I think this is likely to happen, you pull up to the super chargers and there are 10 other cars identical to yours waiting in line in front of you to charge. Last year Tesla delivered over 500,000 cars. How many super chargers are there? You can tell Elon is worried about this too.

 

[trutolife27]

There is so much info out there about the model y vs the mache. It is the most talked-about car vs car in 2021. Before the mache was released all you heard was, really ford making a BEV lol funny.
Once it finally happen and the amount of WOW from reviews to people who owned a Tesla was amazing. If the mache wasn't so good why would there always be the questions model y vs ____?

Now on another note. No one car is going to be the best at everything or have everything a consumer wants. No one knows your taste in looks or what your heart really wants.
All we can say is what we know.
I have driven so many different BEVs so I could be more informed about what is really "TRUE" or not about each bev.

Tesla's main selling point is speed and speed and fast charging. I have talked to so many tesla fans and 8 out of 10 hands down always say they purchased their tesla for speed. The other 2 fast charging. One guy did tell me it was because of Netflix but we will leave that one alone lol.

Few points on the fast charging though. I have driven from Kentucky too, Michigan, to Memphis Tenn, Huntsville Alabama, and to pigeon forge Tenn. I have only had one problem fast charging so things have been good for me. Most of the time no one is there charging. We are early adopters so right now that is a plus but will not last.
I have been to many tesla chargers where they are full and people waiting in line. When you do get to charge your charge rate is much slower since so many teslas are charging. People don't ever talk about that. Very few times tesla chargers are empty and not a problem with that. So at this point in time that is also something to think about.

Took a trip a couple of weeks ago from Louisville to pigeon forge tenn. Myself in my mache and a family member in his model 3. Was 258 miles for the trip. There were 2 charging places for my mache one in Williamsburg ky and one in kodak tenn. For the tesla one in London ky and one Knoxville tenn. His tesla is a model 3 performance and could not make it the whole way, had to stop and charge. I was getting pretty worried when we passed the Williamsburg charger and were driving into Knoxville. The mache made it the whole way without a charge to pigeon forge. Now did I have much range left? no, but it made it. He was surprised at how well it did also.

There are tesla superchargers right in pigeon forge now so that is nice but they were packed all the time. But there also were 6 level 2 tesla chargers close by. Let's just say the tesla mini tap came in big as I used it to charge all week.

All the tesla people I meet, most of them say how they like the outside and inside look of the mache compared to their tesla.

I mean Tesla is made for one thing. To be as light as it can be and the best aero it can be for range. The mache went for looks and style. They say that tesla is minimalistic but truly it's that way to cut costs and to keep weight down. When people start wanting different body styles for different model years, how much longer can you keep the same catfish look just to be aero built?


We meet a model S plaid owner in London ky. Nice guy, he was charging going to the track. We asked him how much he liked the model s plaid and he shocked us saying it's a weekend car. No options like the euro car he had before and really just a basic car. HE said he purchased it for speed and that is it. It doesn't drive like euro sports cars doesn't handle well and all around the euro cars he is used to its nowhere as good.
But and I say a big but, it is amazingly fast.

At the end of the day pick the one you want. Is no right or wrong. But there is a lot of people saying well this happens or this happens. Do you think tesla doesn't have a problem with the phone to the key? Seen it too many times where people have to pull out the card to get in. It happens. Each owner will always have things happen good or bad that differ from other owners.

So if you want speed, or more fast chargers go model y. you want too many other things to list go mache. Either way, you're getting a bev which is great.

 

[Old Guy]

The Tesla Tap seems like a good idea but many of the L2 Tesla chargers are located in places like hotels/motels where you have to be a guest to use them. Makes it difficult to just pull off of I 95 to charge your car.

 

[ARK]

One thing I didn't see mentioned yet.
Since the OP lives in SF bay area where Teslas are as common as Corollas few years ago, uniqueness can be a factor for some. Believe it or not, I've only seen one Mach-e driving on the road so far while I see at least 3-5 Teslas every time I drive! A lot more on 30mins+ drives.

If I were buying an EV here and comparing between otherwise similar cars, I'd be buying something a little bit more unique, with some character. But that's just my weighting system. There are obviously many who want to blend in.

As for the delivery date: A big factor will be the chip supply. Ford has already met initial pent-up demand for Mach-e and production volume has been increased also. It "should" improve supply soon.

I’m a fan of Dan Neil’s Rumble Seat column in the Wall Street Journal. His latest review is about the Porsche Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo, and he spends much of his time comparing it to the Model S.

He wrote the following: “The trouble with buying any Tesla is that they are everywhere. In certain area codes, like the 310 [West LA] and 415 [San Francisco and Marin County], Teslas’ every-other-car-ness is laughable. It’s helpful here to remember the chthonic urges that form the impulse for luxury automobiles—envy, pride, exclusivity, scarcity, status, the pursuit of the next.”

Source: 2022 Porsche Taycan: A Tesla Rival That’s Eye-Catching—but Pricey

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