High DCFC charge rate is optional, right?

[67 Stang Convertible]

Maybe he received the wrong battery?

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[JohnFoxeSheets]

I've read this twice, and I still can't figure out what you're talking about.

I'm just glad I'm not on any project that the OP is managing...

 

[luckie]

Ford - The published fastest charge rate for the Mach e is optional, right? A Ford pay per use service?

1. If you use a charger that can provide current at a rate higher than the vehicle's maximum you can obtain the maximum charge rate for the vehicle under appropriate conditions.

2. You are not required to pay Ford money for *any* charge.

3. This is similar to top speed of a race car, or EPA range or mpg of a gasoline vehicle, or best taste of a steak prepared at a restaurant. Certain conditions are needed for the best outcome.

Shouldn't you advertise this as **optional?

It is quite true that all automobile manufacturers (and really all product sales) are not transparent about limitations of ANY claims made in advertisements except when required to do so by regulations enforced by law/penalties. The efficiency mpg or range of gasoline vehicles is quite different under cold or high speed or low speed or stop and go, conditions. True. And EVs are the same.

Your website -> 10% to 80% charge in ~36 minutes with DC Fast Charging
I don't mind that it's optional or a pay for use service. My point is that it be advertised as an option. right?

Very true, advertising that a gasoline vehicle can go 0-60mph in 4.5 seconds is not for sure, its MPG will be much lower and will vary greatly under different conditions, it does cost money to buy fuel. They could say all that in the advertisements.

When comparing apples to apples during the purchase phase these details are important. Had I known that high DCFC rates were optional I still would have bought the Mach e - but might have included something in the deal...

So, what you are sharing here, is you had not learned about how charging of an EV worked, and you are unhappy to learn the realities of this topic. Gotcha. Every new EV buyer learns this and other surprising new things either before or more commonly AFTER they purchase a vehicle.

Yep, just like buying a gasoline car with no idea the range would vary widely, the efficiency would drop dramatically at low and high speeds, be insanely unpredictable, and then change again under a cold, wet, etc environmental conditions...

Change my mind (seriously)

Totally understand the surprises when learning about something new.

 

[bbulkow]

Ford - The published fastest charge rate for the Mach e is optional, right? A Ford pay per use service?

Shouldn't you advertise this as **optional?

Not an optional service you have to subscribe for!!

You confused a lot of people. The highest speed does require a lot of things to go right, but paying for a special speed service is not one of them.

You have to have your battery warm, either because it is a warm day, or you preconditioned. And you have to be at a charger that goes fast. And to be more confusing, some 200w chargers will (by design) only push 71kw at a mache, because the kw labeling is incomplete

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[TheVirtualTim]

An EV “battery” isn’t really one battery. It’s typically a bunch of modules and each module has lots of smaller “cells”. So when you have a larger battery pack … there are more physical “cells” that can store energy.

For this reason … larger battery sizes can accept energy “faster”. Each battery cell cannot accept energy any faster … it’s just that there are more of them.

But you aren’t really paying for an “option” to charge faster … you’re just getting an option to go for a larger battery pack (more cells) … and the physics naturally means that since there are more of them, they (as a group) can take on energy faster (Each individual cell cannot take on energy any faster … it’s just a numbers game.)

 

[Jack Roberts]

Ford - The published fastest charge rate for the Mach e is optional, right? A Ford pay per use service?

Shouldn't you advertise this as **optional?

Your website -> 10% to 80% charge in ~36 minutes with DC Fast Charging

I don't mind that it's optional or a pay for use service. My point is that it be advertised as an option. right?

When comparing apples to apples during the purchase phase these details are important. Had I known that high DCFC rates were optional I still would have bought the Mach e - but might have included something in the deal...

Change my mind (seriously)

The Mach e is always capable of charging at that rate. Ford can’t control when and where you plug it in.

 

[RickMachE]

The Mach e is always capable of charging at that rate. Ford can’t control when and where you plug it in.

You are dead wrong. My cat told me they can, and he is very knowledgeable.

 

[Pcspilot]

Maybe there is some confusion between the 60kWh that is shown as added and the up to 150 kW that the vehicle will accept. (I’ve been at 155 kW the last two fast charges I’ve done)
60kWh added in 30 or so minutes seems right.

 

[bruddahmanmatt]

Who's punching the air harder, OP at Ford for who knows what based on his rambling, or us at OP trying to figure out WTF he's babbling about?

 

[bdonpwn]

Pretty sure we are all getting trolled by Chat GPT right now…reads like an AI post with a few subtle yet totally bonkers details

 

[0d34mqn6]

Had I known that high DCFC rates were optional I still would have bought the Mach e - but might have included something in the deal...

Change my mind (seriously)

Perhaps you would have negotiated the dealer installing a level 3 charger (and electrical supply) in your climate-controlled garage?

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