I no longer own a Mach-E

[Womps]

You are welcome to avoid imports of course, but that's a weird sample to base the decision on.

I owned a Kia once. Got a rock in the windshield. Won’t own another one! ?

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[sockmeister]

It was a good ride, but I always get the itch for a new car after a few years. I've been eyeing the Kia EV9 for a while, but was waiting for the price to come down. $15k off MSRP was enough for me to pull the trigger on a GT-Line.

I will say that this forum has been one of the positive aspects of owning a Mach-E. By comparison, the Kia EV forums are super lame. I'll continue to hang around here since I enjoy the company, and the MME will always have a place in my heart.

You've absolutely been a valuable part of this forum since the beginning. Congrats on the Kia, can't fault you Glad you're sticking around somewhat.

 

[Pearce]

I rented a Kia Niro on my last business trip to Orlando - it was pretty nice and roomier that I expected (unlike Polestars!) One thing - I LOVE the huge display like the Mach-E and the Tesla has. I like not having to wear reading glasses when driving. lol.

All that being said - I have 18 more months on my Mach-E lease. So much will happen in that time that I am excited at the prospects what I will be driving next.

 

[RickMachE]

So we talked about maybe keeping the MME and getting an EV9. I would rather have an EV Explorer, but Ford has decided that 2025 for that vehicle isn't worth their time and are now looking to 2027, which won't work. The EV9 is the only three row EV that I even like, and I really want to get out and test one. Unthinkable.

I think Ford made a mistake pushing out the Explorer. That was also going to be our next vehicle, getting rid of the Mach-E and getting the Explorer, so when the kids and grand kids come we don't have to take 2 vehicles everywhere. Big disappointment on that front.

It came with 1000 kWh of EA charging. I entered a redemption code in the EA app that applied the balance there rather than using a proprietary app like Ford does.

So you can add that to your 500kWh of unused EA charging from the Ford, right? Use that real quick before they recognize that you're not the owner of the vehicle...

Glad you're staying. Your responses to many posts keep me smiling.

 

[Jimrpa]

HDA2 works much better than BlueCruise 1.0. It's probably comparable to BC 1.2+, but I never got to try it, so I can't say for sure. HDA2 is not a hands-off system because it doesn't have an eye tracker in the US. But it goes minutes without warning you to touch the wheel, and the wheel is capacitive, so a light touch with one finger is all it takes. I'm glad it doesn't have an eye-tracker because reports from other countries say that it warns to keep your eyes on the road constantly.

Lane changes work great, but I assume that's also the case with BC 1.2+.

I also really like the options for Speed Sign Recognition. You can have it automatically adjust the cruise set speed when it sees a change in the speed limit just like the MME does, but I never liked that on the highway due to false readings. The other option is to have it beep and show an up or down arrow on the screen alerting you that the speed limit has changed. Then you can hit the up or down cruise button to accept the change before it adjusts your set speed. I like that much better.

Everyone always says HDA2 is better than BlueCruise, then they immediately caveat that with “HDA2 is not a hands-free system”. If I still have to hold on to the steering wheel (I get that you can “let go” for a period of time, but that’s just “cheating” in the same way as letting go of the steering wheel when BlueCruise is in hands-on mode), what makes it better than BlueCruise?
Related question: are there aftermarket devices available to simulate “touching” the steering wheel?

 

[generaltso]

So you can add that to your 500kWh of unused EA charging from the Ford, right? Use that real quick before they recognize that you're not the owner of the vehicle...

Unfortunately, that seems to be lost after a master reset. But it took me over 3 years to use 70 kWh of the Ford free charging, so I'm sure I won't use all of the 1000 kWh from Kia before that expires in 3 years.

 

[generaltso]

Everyone always says HDA2 is better than BlueCruise, then they immediately caveat that with “HDA2 is not a hands-free system”. If I still have to hold on to the steering wheel (I get that you can “let go” for a period of time, but that’s just “cheating” in the same way as letting go of the steering wheel when BlueCruise is in hands-on mode), what makes it better than BlueCruise?
Related question: are there aftermarket devices available to simulate “touching” the steering wheel?

You don't have to hold the wheel since it's capacitive. A thumb tapping the bottom of the wheel from your lap is enough. But the part that's better is the lack of ping ponging, staying centered in the lane around turns, and automated lane changes. But, like I said, that's only comparing it to BlueCruse 1.0.

Not sure about aftermarket devices. I haven't looked into it.

 

[Tampamike]

And so goes another soldier (well ok, officer), (well ok, Chinese chicken dish). We’re gonna miss your knowledge and your kinder/gentler RTFMs…

Hmm, kinder and gentler than whom …… ??

 

[Mickey52]

It was a good ride, but I always get the itch for a new car after a few years. I've been eyeing the Kia EV9 for a while, but was waiting for the price to come down. $15k off MSRP was enough for me to pull the trigger on a GT-Line.

I will say that this forum has been one of the positive aspects of owning a Mach-E. By comparison, the Kia EV forums are super lame. I'll continue to hang around here since I enjoy the company, and the MME will always have a place in my heart.

I’ve gone from Tesla to the MME and honestly pretty impressed so far.

 

[Tampamike]

How much did they give you for the MME trade - if you don’t mind saying?

 

[burritoman]

I hope you touch in and follow up with how it is working for you.

I have been a Ford diehard my entire life, we have basically always owned Ford vehicles. For most of my life I would sooner roll my eyes at a KIA or Hyundai than consider even test driving one.

But man, their EVs have sure been on a roll, and hitting so many of the mass consumer boxes. The MME and F-150 are due to go back next year and I kind of want a Lightning, but it will be even harder to pull that trigger unless the prices are even better than they are today because to get a Lightning with what my Lariat PowerBoost has, like power running boards and B&O Unleashed and all that, I need to get a Platinum.

So we talked about maybe keeping the MME and getting an EV9. I would rather have an EV Explorer, but Ford has decided that 2025 for that vehicle isn't worth their time and are now looking to 2027, which won't work. The EV9 is the only three row EV that I even like, and I really want to get out and test one. Unthinkable.

Same. I'd always thought of Kia and Hyundai as cheap imitations of Japanese cars. No longer. It takes a long time for minds to change, at least for me it does. I'm still partial to Fords and love driving the MME. Depending on what the scene looks like on my next buying cycle, I might have a hard decision to make.

 

[RickMachE]

When I was traveling a lot years back, a lot of the rentals were Hyundais, and I was very surprised at the quality. I used to have Datsuns, then Nissan, then one Mazda (never again), then all big 2 since the 80s.

 

[generaltso]

How much did they give you for the MME trade - if you don’t mind saying?

$26k (2021 Premium AWD Standard Range)

 

[Tampamike]

$26k (2021 Premium AWD Standard Range)

Thanks. I could probably live with that. I just don’t see any other cars that I want right now. The EV9 is too big for my needs, but it looks nice.

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

Hmm, kinder and gentler than whom …… ??

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