Mach-e GTPE loses to everything

[Mach1E]

No surprises here. We are “so fast” then “so slow.”

If they never fix the 5 second thing, I would be ok with that……… if power only dropped to 429 hp like the Genesis off boost.

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[fpasta]

Was the Mach E even a vehicle marketed to be Or to be
a racer, a vehicle that is the one to beat on the track? I thought this was supposed to be a crossover SUV. At least they should make a GTPE RWD with the same amount of horses no 5 sec limit. We might have something.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Was the Mach E even a vehicle marketed to be Or to be
a racer, a vehicle that is the one to beat on the track?

 

[daemonic3]

Normally I don't care about drag race benchmarking but that vid had me hooked from the beginning with the setup and then the production value. Interacting real time with the slo-mo at high resolution was *chef's kiss*

 

[Space Ghost GT]

There needs to be a better slope of the power cut. Fine 5 full seconds then 450,435,420 and so on. Not 480 to Honda Civic Si. Ford better must do….

 

[RedStallion]

Come on @Ford Motor Company this is just getting embarrassing.

 

[Mach1E]

Was the Mach E even a vehicle marketed to be Or to be
a racer, a vehicle that is the one to beat on the track? I thought this was supposed to be a crossover SUV. At least they should make a GTPE RWD with the same amount of horses no 5 sec limit. We might have something.

Lol.

Did you look at any of the marketing for the GT?

Every ad mentions acceleration.

First videos? Driving around a race track.

First video review? Driving on a racetrack with the headline “so fast it made me sick.”

First press event? At a racetrack

Unbridled extend mode? Marketed as a track only mode.

I wonder why we expected this car to be built to go around a track…….?

Side note- RWD GTPE would be terrible. It would only be good for burning up your tires. No chance you would get traction so it would be significantly slower.

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

No surprises here. We are “so fast” then “so slow.”

It’sa So/So car then.

 

[SWO]

My takeaway is.....MachE is the quickest on the street and the only EV in the test which doesn't look like a bag of hammered a**holes.

 

[67 Stang Convertible]

Wow, Hyundai/Genesis has turned out to be quite a car co. seeing where they came from. Mustang was still the best looking car out there (well, maybe the Vett) but best looking ev on the screen. I think Ford should hire the AV people from Hagerty; that video production was Fantastic!!!

 

[Flashgolfer]

My GTPE is the most fun and best car i have ever owned (over the last 55 years). The others are interesting, but i get a little tickle every single time I get behind the steering wheel. And the MME is the best looking of the bunch!

 

[A-A-Ron]

I am guessing no change until a "gen 2" and a new battery design. Maybe 2027 or 2028.

Careful now, there will be a lot of hurt feelings 'round these parts from people that still believe there is going to be a magic OTA update that's going to completely redesign their car to fix this limitation.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Was the Mach E even a vehicle marketed to be Or to be
a racer, a vehicle that is the one to beat on the track? I thought this was supposed to be a crossover SUV. At least they should make a GTPE RWD with the same amount of horses no 5 sec limit. We might have something.

That depends on what you think the name "MUSTANG" implies.

Oh yeah, there was that video put out by Ford of a MME lapping on a race track making the passenger sick because it was going "so fast."

 

[ThatGuyLando]

Good to know. I'll keep this in mind the next time I'm in the middle of the desert on a race track with my kids.

 

[A-A-Ron]

That depends on what you think the name "MUSTANG" implies.

Oh yeah, there was that video put out by Ford of a MME lapping on a race track making the passenger sick because it was going "so fast."

Not a Ford engineer and no knowledge of how this came about - but I have nearly 2 decades of engineering test experience behind my WAGs here:

First - development of the MME originally started out as a more generic, Escape size crossover and mid-development it was shifted to being a Mustang. That's not a WAG - this is: This led to the design team reshaping the existing design to look more Mustang-ish and likely engineering rework to optimize the already in-design propulsion system to get as much power and acceleration as they could out of something originally conceived to be less sporty. Fortunately, electric motors are pretty good at putting out sporty performance numbers, so they were able to get into the Mustang ballpark for most use cases.

Second - I'm guessing the GT/GTPE development was a further optimization of that system that was behind the base MME development - in other words, I expect they designed the MME and then took the design further with the higher HP front motor for the GT and other optimizations for the GTPE but the MME design was probably pretty locked in by that point.

Third - I bet they discovered the system they designed melted down (literally) at full performance for "extended" periods so late in the design or test phase that reworking it was some combination of too difficult, too time-consuming, and too costly to do and stay anywhere near on schedule. The 5-second limitation would literally get the GTPE from 0 to any legal street speed outside Germany with full performance, and they bet (probably rightly) that this car isn't destined for the track in 99.99% of the cases so a few lost sales weren't worth the costs.

They jumped the shark a bit calling it a Mustang Performance Edition when it's not meant to tear up a track, but at this point - what would you call it? The GT name made sense, what would you suggest for the GTPE to denote that it's the peak of the current MME performance that didn't also imply it's a race car?

Anyway - my point is that you're right it's not a track monster and Ford knew that and decided they're fine with it. It's a really damn quick daily driver that's a joy to drive, and Ford knew that too. Everything else about what "MUSTANG" means went out the window with the MME - this isn't any different than the argument it's not a mustang because it has 4 doors, or cargo space, or an electric engine, or an automatic transmission, or ...

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