Mach-E Impressions from a Tesla owner

[Kamuelaflyer]

How does road noise compare?

My premium awd Er compared to my neighbors MY long range: my MME is far quieter.

Others will have different perceptions.

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[Forensic]

Wow. That’s surprisingly dumb for Tesla. Thanks for the info.

The other thing my friend says is that it is impossible to drive more than 5mph over the posted speed limit with AP engaged. Is this true?

I asked him if he could turn off speed sign recognition for cruise control in order to get around this, but he wasn’t sure. Can you?

I gave up on Ford’s “intelligent” Cruise Control because it isn’t very smart about reading signs so I don’t want that triggering my cruise settings. I’m glad Ford allows me to do that and still use Adaptive Cruise Control with Lane Keeping. Does Tesla allow something similar or are you required to have the car read speed signs when in AP?

That's not exactly how it works, when you put on your turn signal while Autopilot is engaged it takes very little steering effort to change lanes opposed to when the turn signal is not on. Although I firmly believe that auto-lane change should be included with Autopilot as standard since it's a multi-step process to use turn signal, change lanes, turn off turn signal, and re-engage Autopilot.

How does road noise compare?

MME is more quiet.

My premium awd Er compared to my neighbors MY long range: my MME is far quieter.

Others will have different perceptions.

Agreed, MME is more isolated from outside noise than the Tesla. The new Model 3s and Ys have dual-pane windows so maybe they are an improvement over mine which has the single-pane but I can't say for certain.

 

[theo1000]

Agreed, MME is more isolated from outside noise than the Tesla. The new Model 3s and Ys have dual-pane windows so maybe they are an improvement over mine which has the single-pane but I can't say for certain.

When I drove the M3 & the Y the noise, esp. on gravel and higher speeds seemed to come from low down wheel well and underfloor. Not sure if the problem was just the glass. The wheel wells in particular seemed like a weak point. But yes coming from the Etron the noise level was quite off putting.

The Mach-E is surprisingly quiet. Yesterday, in the interests of science, I floored it to 112 mph on a empty stretch of highway. It really did not seem louder than than 75 mph. And actually seemed a lot more smooth on the suspension. The M3 by contrast was so loud at 100 mph It was uncomfortable and I had to slow down.

 

[Forensic]

I, too, don’t understand the hate of the start button. When I push the start button, my seat and mirrors go to my settings, and the screens begin to boot up. Do Tesla’s not have power seats that move back for ease of entry/exit? If they do, what triggers these movements? Do you need to verbally tell your Tesla to start up?

The MME is far, far quieter than the Model 3. It was immediately apparent on my test drive even on local roads.


Very typical attitude of some Tesla superfans (I'm not accusing the OP of being one, and I actually agree with him on most points) - if Tesla does/doesn't do something, then it is/isn't needed.

The moment you step on the brake pedal to "turn on" the car, the seat retracts to the position of your profile. The car can automatically choose the driver profile based on PaaK, but it can get confused sometimes when say your spouse with another PaaK gets into the car the same time, activating the spouse's profile. Handy feature, but I'd rather have the 1/2/3 profile buttons right on the door.


Yes I too have noticed that it takes a bit of time for the infotainment screen to be fully responsive, but at least the backup camera has always come on immediately upon shifting to reverse. I have seen the opposite though, that the camera remains on the screen until the system becomes fully responsive (and not because I have the delayed camera setting enabled). Tesla also has a similar quirk sometimes, the camera is blank for a while after shifting into reverse, but the infotainment screen is always responsive one the car is awaken, 10-15 seconds or so. Keep in mind, in those 10-15 seconds during wake up, you cannot interact with the screen at all, so you can't open the glovebox, open or close your garage door, or choose your driver profile until it's fully awaken.

I can assure you I'm not a Tesla superfan and I actually find them to be very annoying. I do think I am an electric vehicle superfan though and definitely think EVs are the future.

In regards to the start button, I think it's something that needs to be experienced to understand what I'm talking about. Like MachTee said, when you open the door to the Tesla, it detects which phone it is and which driver profile it's associated to and adjusts the seat, mirrors, and steering wheel accordingly. The AC/heat and radio turn on too. To "start" the car and for it to allow you to drive, you have to press your foot on the brake and give it 2-3 seconds to "start" then you can shift it into gear. When you get out of the vehicle it will automatically turn everything off right away and put the car to sleep after a few minutes.

In my opinion, after you get used to this process, the start button just feels like an extra unneeded step. But realistically it's not a big deal, it's just something I noticed coming from the Tesla.

 

[trutolife27]

I can assure you I'm not a Tesla superfan and I actually find them to be very annoying. I do think I am an electric vehicle superfan though and definitely think EVs are the future.

In regards to the start button, I think it's something that needs to be experienced to understand what I'm talking about. Like MachTee said, when you open the door to the Tesla, it detects which phone it is and which driver profile it's associated to and adjusts the seat, mirrors, and steering wheel accordingly. The AC/heat and radio turn on too. To "start" the car and for it to allow you to drive, you have to press your foot on the brake and give it 2-3 seconds to "start" then you can shift it into gear. When you get out of the vehicle it will automatically turn everything off right away and put the car to sleep after a few minutes.

In my opinion, after you get used to this process, the start button just feels like an extra unneeded step. But realistically it's not a big deal, it's just something I noticed coming from the Tesla.

The same could be said about the door handles on the tesla. Kinda old tech on the mode Y. And not really friendly to use. Really you don't even need the wing on the front doors of the mache. So complaining about the start button is kinda the same with the tesla door handles.

 

[Mirak]

I think using the brake pedal as the start button makes sense. Honestly, Ford could implement this via software if they wanted to, but it might just cause confusion at this point. Truthfully, pressing the start button is such a small thing that I can’t bring myself to care either way, although the brake pedal is a good idea.

 

[timbop]

The same could be said about the door handles on the tesla. Kinda old tech on the mode Y. And not really friendly to use. Really you don't even need the wing on the front doors of the mache. So complaining about the start button is kinda the same with the tesla door handles.

Yes, but when a Tesla's door handles are frozen you get to pee on them to unfreeze them. So, advanced technology!

 

[blue92lx]

I personally don't understand the whole start button thing. When I drove my brother's MY and use the pedal to start the car my reaction was like 1 second of "OK I guess it's on then" and that's it. There was literally nothing revolutionary about it, or convenient in my opinion. I mean I push the start button on my car, and the mach e that I rented, without even thinking about it. It was literally the same amount of effort as pushing the brake pedal. I'm really not trying to hate on people who like the whole brake pedal thing, but to me it's such a pointless thing to even bring up as a negative I feel like you're spending more time thinking about how 'inconvenient' it is, than actually pressing the button.

One thing I really didn't like on the Tesla though were the door handles. That literally caused me to pause and try to figure out what was going on because the way they turn out is backwards to how we've pulled handles for the last 100+ years. So when I pulled on it I was kind of pulling against the handle wondering if I was doing it right, and wondering why the door wasn't really opening the way I expected it to, and then wondering if I pulled the handle harder will I damage it.

I'm pretty sure that was WAY more inconvenient than pushing a start button that I've done thousands of times while driving cars.

 

[pt19713]

Agreed, MME is more isolated from outside noise than the Tesla. The new Model 3s and Ys have dual-pane windows so maybe they are an improvement over mine which has the single-pane but I can't say for certain.

The double laminated windows doesn't make much difference in the Y. The main issue in the Y is NVH from the suspension through the subframe. Surprisingly, the 2021 3 doesn't seem to have the same noise issues as the Y. I have a 2020 Y Long Range and 2021 3 Performance, and the 3 is a much quieter and more comfortable car despite the sport suspension and 235/35/20 rubber band tires.

 

[fmtexmme]

I personally don't understand the whole start button thing. When I drove my brother's MY and use the pedal to start the car my reaction was like 1 second of "OK I guess it's on then" and that's it. There was literally nothing revolutionary about it, or convenient in my opinion. I mean I push the start button on my car, and the mach e that I rented, without even thinking about it. It was literally the same amount of effort as pushing the brake pedal. I'm really not trying to hate on people who like the whole brake pedal thing, but to me it's such a pointless thing to even bring up as a negative I feel like you're spending more time thinking about how 'inconvenient' it is, than actually pressing the button.

One thing I really didn't like on the Tesla though were the door handles. That literally caused me to pause and try to figure out what was going on because the way they turn out is backwards to how we've pulled handles for the last 100+ years. So when I pulled on it I was kind of pulling against the handle wondering if I was doing it right, and wondering why the door wasn't really opening the way I expected it to, and then wondering if I pulled the handle harder will I damage it.

I'm pretty sure that was WAY more inconvenient than pushing a start button that I've done thousands of times while driving cars.

I agree. I've been driving 39 years now and I've always had to use a key or push a button to start a car, so I don't really consider the Start button an issue.

 

[Birger]

I guess while I’m at it, I’ll quibble with a couple other things. The start button isn’t necessary, true, but also who really cares? It doesn’t cause any added inconvenience.

Because the car honks twice each time i forget it.... It's a royal pain. And I forget all the time as I'm also coming from a Tesla to Mach-e. The button is just nonsense, extra parts and extra programmed functionality that is just waste. (LEAN - get rid of it ASAP)

 

[TheCats]

The double laminated windows doesn't make much difference in the Y. The main issue in the Y is NVH from the suspension through the subframe. Surprisingly, the 2021 3 doesn't seem to have the same noise issues as the Y. I have a 2020 Y Long Range and 2021 3 Performance, and the 3 is a much quieter and more comfortable car despite the sport suspension and 235/35/20 rubber band tires.

I have a Y with laminated side windows. Most of the road noise is from the tires. It's very obvious when during a transition between paved surfaces with different textures. When it's quiet, it's very quiet. When there is coarse pavement, tread noise overwhelms any other NVH.

People have different experiences because each factory wheel size has a different tire brand. Some are much louder. There was even an late autumn production stop on the performance model Y because there was no manufacturer making all-season tires in that size/load range. You can't deliver cars to the mid-west in October with summer tires.

Tesla's software is much smoother and more reliable than Ford. Tesla's PaaK has never failed to work. I carry the card key out of paranoia, but I only used it when I don't have my phone.

I occasionally wish that Tesla supported Android Auto, but then I remember that AA is so mediocre that it's only wins over most native car UIs.

Paint, fit and finish on my Model Y are quite good. I spent about an hour inspecting when I picked it up at the Fremont factory, and compared it to the others in the delivery area. They all looked great, with the exception of the position of the tail lights and trunk line when viewed from certain angles.

 

[Yamifromiami]

Two pivotal advantages to the MME over the Tesla are the drain holes in the frunk and the charging port on the drivers side. These two features finalized my decision. ???

 

[snikt]

Two pivotal advantages to the MME over the Tesla are the drain holes in the frunk and the charging port on the drivers side. These two features finalized my decision. ???

The Tesla charging port is on the drivers side, it's just in the rear instead of the front

 

[pt19713]

The Tesla charging port is on the drivers side, it's just in the rear instead of the front

Driver's side rear, so it forces most to back in for Tesla supercharging. We all know how bad some drivers can be.... I've always backed in to parking spots so no issue for me.

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