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I got the following reply from Future Ford in Concord, Ca via email. It’s already been stated they wont charge ADM but I found their wording interesting.


“We don't/can't mark-up the vehicle because we're not selling the vehicle as a dealership. You're buying it directly from Ford Motor, we're just facilitating the deliveries
Ali Alfaraj
Future Ford Lincoln of Concord
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(925) 686-5000 - Work”
 

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Suburban Ford of Ferndale just called me after an e-mail, super friendly and said that added dealer markup is usually for dealer-ordered vehicles on very limited cars like the Shelby's. Since this is a customer ordered vehicle AXZ should apply, no ADM for reservations at least. He should be calling back to confirm when orders are happening and all that, so if anything changes I'll update
I'm going through Suburban Ford of Sterling Heights. They emailed me that they would honor AXZ plan (no ADM).
 

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Yeah, a bit far from West Palm Beach, will give my dealer a call and see if they have any updates.
Try Al Packer Ford, Royal Palm Beach, FL
Salesman just told me their ADM is $699, BUT they have to waive their ADM when they accept AXZ-plan. (Is this standard for all dealers?) He confirmed they will accept X-plan for MME, so long as proper documentation is provided at the sale. So yes they accept X-plan and no ADM.
 

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Try Al Packer Ford, Royal Palm Beach, FL
Salesman just told me their ADM is $699, BUT they have to waive their ADM when they accept AXZ-plan. (Is this standard for all dealers?) He confirmed they will accept X-plan for MME, so long as proper documentation is provided at the sale. So yes they accept X-plan and no ADM.
AXZ is set by Ford, there's only a certain amount of money the dealer can tack on for documentation, not honoring the AXZ price for an AXZ code puts the dealer in violation of their agreement. So if they're honoring AXZ pricing then you're in the clear and shouldn't get any ADM
 

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Try Al Packer Ford, Royal Palm Beach, FL
Salesman just told me their ADM is $699, BUT they have to waive their ADM when they accept AXZ-plan. (Is this standard for all dealers?) He confirmed they will accept X-plan for MME, so long as proper documentation is provided at the sale. So yes they accept X-plan and no ADM.
Good to hear. If I don't hear back from I may just switch to Packer Ford then.
 

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Good to hear. If I don't hear back from I may just switch to Packer Ford then.
In case you need his contact info to verify:
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Cooper Ford - Carthage, NC (Yes AXZ-Plan, No ADM)
 

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With all the stuff I'm reading here, I decided to give my dealership (Mall of Georgia Ford) a call to see if everything is okay and that there would be no ADM. I called a sales rep who said that this would be a low quantity vehicle that will most likely have an MSRP "adjustment" and that the A/Z/X plan would most likely not apply. He said this is similar to Raptor Trucks, or Shelby Mustangs. Later in the day I got an email from the Inventory Manger (Andrew Mullenix) at the Mall of Georgia ford telling me that ford's online system had forwarded him my information and to contact him if I had any questions. I called him and found out that the information the Sales Rep provided me was in fact false and that Andrew and only two other managers had completed the Mach-E online training earlier that day. There would be no ADM and the A/Z/X plans would be accepted. From what he explained to me it seems like ford is the seller and we are buying it directly from them with the dealerships acting as middleman delivering the car and getting a set fee from Ford. He also told me that not many people are trained on this car and even in other dealerships there might be misinformation that will be corrected when everyone is trained. Andrew also told me that he can already enter orders into the system, and that they have a little bit of a head start compared to what's online. If I wanted he said he could help me place my order over the phone. Also it turns out around 40 people reserved the car at this dealership alone.

In the time between the Mall of Georgia sales rep telling me there would be ADM and the Inventory Manager correcting him, I called another Dealership. This time it was AutoNation Ford in Marietta, GA. The AutoNation Sales rep had to talk to his manager, and verified that there would be no ADMs, and that A/Z/X plans would be accepted.

Since I now know that both of these dealerships won't charge ADMs, and accept Ford's A/Z/X plans I will add them to the Wiki.
 

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Just spoke with Koons Ford, Silver Spring MD. The Mach E specialist hasn't completed the training yet but verbally confirmed there should be no ADM, they always accept A-Z pricing if Ford authorizes it, and they will want a $500-1000 deposit. The deposit is definitely refundable. They only ask non-refundable deposits of really bizarre special orders they might have trouble moving. Not an issue here.

I asked for an email confirmation and will update once I get one.
 

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Just spoke with Koons Ford, Silver Spring MD. The Mach E specialist hasn't completed the training yet but verbally confirmed there should be no ADM, they always accept A-Z pricing if Ford authorizes it, and they will want a $500-1000 deposit. The deposit is definitely refundable. They only ask non-refundable deposits of really bizarre special orders they might have trouble moving. Not an issue here.

I asked for an email confirmation and will update once I get one.
That was quick. Confirmed in email:

It was a pleasure speaking with you this morning. i saw the az plan configuration and it has been verified so we are good on that part. there is no dealer mark up since ford will be controlling the pricing.
Sincerely
Narh Caternor
Lincoln, Ford & Mazda Specialist
Koons Silver Spring Ford Lincoln Mazda

3111 Automobile Blvd
Silver Spring MD, 20904
Work: (301) 890-6100 ext. 19214
Cell: (443) 643-5769
M-F 9-9 S 9-7 S 12-6pm
www.koonsofsilverspring.com
 

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Towne Ford - Redwood City, CA (accepts X-plan and no ADM)
What phone number or email address (and who, if applicable) did you contact to get that commitment from Towne Ford at Redwood City? I'm asking because the recommendation on the forum is to get a written confirmation for oneself.
 

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I got the following reply from Future Ford in Concord, Ca via email. It’s already been stated they wont charge ADM but I found their wording interesting.

“We don't/can't mark-up the vehicle because we're not selling the vehicle as a dealership. You're buying it directly from Ford Motor, we're just facilitating the deliveries

Ali Alfaraj
Future Ford Lincoln of Concord
Internet Sales Manager
(925) 332-9059 - Cell
(925) 686-5000 - Work”
We talked with Pat Marques at Future Ford (yet another Internet Sales Manager). When asked about X-Plan he replied: "Ok there is no xplan. We were already told by Ford." I'm wondering if Ali said the same thing.
 

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We talked with Pat Marques at Future Ford (yet another Internet Sales Manager). When asked about X-Plan he replied: "Ok there is no xplan. We were already told by Ford." I'm wondering if Ali said the same thing.
My dealer said they would accept A-Z plans if Ford issued them for the Mach E. I asked him to check dealer communication EFC08063 and get back to me. He did, confirmed Ford had X-plan pricing, and emailed me saying they would be accepting it.

You might want to have your dealer check that communication.
 



 









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