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I can verify Encinitas Ford is no ADM and accepts X plan. They were unsure on military discount.
 

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Totally understandable I am certainly going on some assumptions based on previous and existing products, due to the nature of the mach-e being based around c2 platform with obvious differences, just looking at the pictures of the interior it is all very c2 based to me so if you can go sit in a new escape or find a c-max on the used lot it may be a good approximation.

With the c-max always just being a taller focus with more head room I would imagine it is the closet in regards to seating h-point and head room as the dimension of the mach-e are very close to the original c-max just a bit longer. It did start out life out as an all electric c-max replacement which probably explains it.

Seat could be a bit higher due to batteries but the c-max seat h-point is closer to the original mk1 focus h-point which is higher than the mk3 and maintains its more upright seating position., which is why sitting in both an escape and c-max will probably give you a ball park idea if you are going to be ok.
I've done a lot of comparing of the specs and shapes between our current 2013 Escapes and the Mach-e. While the Mach-e is (disappointingly) 3" shorter in overall height, the peak height appears to be right over the driver seat; whereas on the Escape peak height is behind the driver seat. So it looks like the difference is only 1-2" at the driver seat. I also calculated it by subtracting headroom from vehicle height (with a few assumptions), and that came out about 1" difference.

So I do expect the Mach-e seat to be only an inch or two shorter. I'd prefer taller, but that's acceptable. Still though, I won't 100% trust that until I try it. Some seats raise more than others, some cars are hard to get your head in when the seat it raised, etc. Just have to sit in it to really know for sure.
 

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I am completely amazed at how many articles have been published in the last two day regarding the ADM and some that have said the dealerships will cause the demise of the Mach-E. Well, I am pretty certain no one associated with this forum is going to pay the extra. The sensationalism is crazy though.

Here's am example. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-vs-ford-mustang-mach-e-premature-death/
 

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I am completely amazed at how many articles have been published in the last two day regarding the ADM and some that have said the dealerships will cause the demise of the Mach-E. Well, I am pretty certain no one associated with this forum is going to pay the extra. The sensationalism is crazy though.

Here's am example. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-vs-ford-mustang-mach-e-premature-death/
That was funny to read. "Premature death"?!? Ha, they wish. I guess some of those Tesla fanboys aren't real familiar with the concept of competition. If we don't like what one dealership tries to charge, we simply try another.

And frankly, I'm not sure some of these Ford dealers that said they'd add ADM fully realize reservation holders can just switch dealers. They don't have the leverage to hold the car hostage to the highest bidder like they normally do.
 

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Yup.. gonna try a list of Ford dealerships who do not charge ADM (additional dealer markup).

For those of you with C8 vettes on order as well, I think we are rapidly entering an era where customers can be honest with OEMs:
NO ONE likes constant renegotiation and adversarial relationships where stress becomes part of the buying experience.
Negotiations with dealers sucks.
Get rid of it?

Can we sticky a list of dealers doing no ADM like the C8 site?

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  • Moyer Ford Sales - Foley, AL
  • McLarty Daniel Ford - Bentonville, AR
  • Chapman Ford - Scottsdale, AZ (X-plan)
  • Mullahey Ford- Arroyo Grande, CA(Did not ask about plan Pricing)
  • Future Ford - Concord, CA
  • Encinitas Ford - Encinitas, CA
  • Tuttle-Click Ford Lincoln - Irvine, CA (Will accept plan pricing)
  • Galpin Ford - North Hills, CA (will not honor any A/Z/D/X plan pricing at this time)
  • Henry Curtis Ford - Petaluma, CA
  • Santa Margarita Ford - Rancho Santa Margarita, CA (accept AZX)
  • Towne Ford - Redwood City, CA (accepts X-plan and no ADM)
  • Autonation Ford - Tustin, CA
  • Visa Ford-Lincoln - Woodland Hills, CA (will accept plan pricing as long as it's offered on the Mach-E, which they're confirming)
  • Mall of Georgia Ford - Buford, GA (A/Z/X Pricing)
  • AutoNation Ford Marietta - Marietta, GA (A/Z/X Pricing)
  • McGrath Ford - Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Ron Tirapelli Ford - Plainfield, IL
  • Gjovik Ford - Sandwich, IL
  • Ray Skillman Ford - Greenwood, IN
  • Gutwein Motor Company - Monon, IN
  • Mel Hambelton Ford - Wichita, KS
  • Bob Davidson Ford - Baltimore, MD (X plan pricing)
  • Apple Ford - Columbia, MD
  • Shaffer Ford - Cumberland, MD
  • Century Ford - Mt. Airy, MD (X plan pricing)
  • Koons Ford - Silver Spring, MD (A-Z plan pricing) - confirmed in email
  • Freeway Ford - Bloomington, MN (Plan pricing NOT allowed)
  • Crossroads Ford - Kernersville, NC (not taking plan pricing)
  • Crescent Ford - High Point, NC (not taking plan pricing)
  • Green Ford - Greensboro, NC (not taking plan pricing)
  • Parkway Ford - Winston-Salem and Lexington, NC (not taking plan pricing)
  • Luther Family Ford - Fargo, ND
  • Beiner Ford - Great Neck, NY
  • Friendly Ford - Poughkeepsie, NY (X plan pricing)
  • AutoNation Ford - Canton, OH (All A/Z/X - also said all AutoNation Dealers should honor)
  • Springfield Ford - Springfield, PA
  • Fairway Ford - Greenville, SC (X plan pricing)
  • Tommie Vaughn - Houston, TX
  • Helfman Ford - Stafford, TX
  • Sterling McCall Ford - Houston, TX
  • Ourisman Ford - Alexandria, VA
  • Magic City Ford - Roanoke, VA
  • Bowen Scarff Ford - Kent, WA
  • Bickford Ford - Snohomish, WA
  • Titus-Will Ford - Tacoma, WA
  • Korum Ford - Puyallup, WA (X-plan)
  • Gordie Boucher Ford - Kenosha, WI
  • Freehold Ford, Freehold, NJ - (Sales Manager Joe said no ADM at their dealership)
  • Suburban Ford of Sterling Heights - metro Detroit, MI
  • Suburban Ford of Ferndale - Metro Detroit, MI (AXZ for customer ordered vehicles at least)
  • Mitchell Selig Ford - Windsor, CT (accepting Ford AXZ price plan)
  • Suburban Ford - Sandy, OR
  • Cooper Ford - Carthage, NC (AXZ-Plan, No ADM)
  • Bo Beuckman - Ellisville, MO (accepting X Plan)
I just got an email from Gosch Ford In Temecula California; "We are not marking them up. Whatever the MSRP of your build is will be the price. "
 

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Lawrenceville Ford in NJ confirmed to me that they are marking up/adding ADM.
East Windsor Haldeman Ford in NJ promised they are honoring MSRP.
 

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Based on discussion here, I e-mailed my local dealer in Northern VA (Ted Britt Ford in Chantilly). I got two gentlemen responding to me, very quickly. https://www.facebook.com/TedBrittFordLincolnChantilly

Summary of how I took the information based on my question about ADM and X-Plan pricing...

X-Plan Pricing: Both said they would honor it if Ford does it. One said nothing is finalized yet and the dealer bulletin being passed around here was an FYI to dealers, not final as far as he was concerned. The other said he would ask Ford and get back to me. Next day, he e-mailed back saying Ford is doing X-Plan pricing and again they would honor it.

ADM: One said they wouldn't be doing markups, the other said they didn't plan on it but they could see some markups happening on First Editions and "limited production versions" (not sure what trims that is exactly). I replied with I have reserved a Premium. I wasn't specifically asking about my reservation through Ford, so maybe they assumed I hadn't reserved anything and was thinking about future walk-ins and if they happen to have an extra First Edition (or "limited edition") sitting on the lot.

My take away was that final information is not available this week. However, I think I would characterize both "no ADM" and "X-Plan pricing" as yes for this dealer.

One of the gentleman provided an interesting comment. They are also looking at the F-150 and Bronco debuts creating a lot of requests for information.

Based on my understanding and what I've read, the new F-150 seems like a much bigger deal to Ford than the Mach-E, regardless of it being delivered sooner.
 
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Based on my understanding and what I've read, the new F-150 seems like a much bigger deal to Ford than the Mach-E, regardless of it being delivered sooner.
That totally makes sense. From a dealership sales volume standpoint, the F-150 is an elephant and the Mach-e is a mouse.

It's an important mouse for the future of Ford, but dealerships are far more concerned with ongoing sales.
 

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Just called Mossy Ford in Pacific Beach San Diego, CA

Salesman said will offer X Plan pricing but unsure about ADM as they saying depends on inventory/stock dealer gets
 

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Just called Mossy Ford in Pacific Beach San Diego, CA

Salesman said will offer X Plan pricing but unsure about ADM as they saying depends on inventory/stock dealer gets
Why, if you are ordering the car? Your order is the inventory. I would find someone else.
 

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Doublechecked with my Dealer (already on the thread list) Bickford Ford in Snohomish, WA - No ADM is confirmed. If you have a reservation you pay what the reservation/configurator price shows.



I forgot to ask about the X plan pricing - I have the cert from Ford, I will ask them the next time I talk to them.
 

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I work for Suburban Ford in Sandy, OR but am not a salesman. I can confirm that we will not have an ADM and will honor eligible AXZD-Plan pricing. Since Oregon is a ZEV state, there is also higher priority to get allocation. Here is a list of ZEV states: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Vermont.
 



 









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