Range anxiety ? NEVER !

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I've had my '23 MME since July 2024 and always drove with Engage mode. Just used Whisper mode today for the first time because I had barely enough range (38 miles) to make my 35 mile commute home. The wavy blue lighting around the center speedometer was a tad bit annoying. Made it home with front windows 1/2 way down, 74 degrees outside, a/c not needed anyway, no range anxiety at all and 11 miles / 3% battery left over.
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Nice. I should drive in Engage more often. I always have so much range left over after a commute. I ought to “spend” it on fun!

There should be an opposite of range anxiety, like “Range Courage.” Signs you have Range Courage:

You realize that slowing down is the best range extender.

You realize that (in most places) you only need as much range to get to the next charging station.

You begin to understand that you don’t drive as much as you think you do (all ye on the fat part of the bell curve! I speak not to the uniqueness bias!)

You see that going down from a high elevation to a low elevation can triple your efficiency compared to low to higher elevation (personal facepalm 🤦…. Obvious in retrospect)

You do your first road trip and realize that it’s totally fine.

You talk to someone in a forum about how it was “way back in 2021,” and realize how fast the infrastructure has improved.

You laugh in the face of a 35 miles on a 38 mile guess o meter!!!
 

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You see that going down from a high elevation to a low elevation can triple your efficiency compared to low to higher elevation (personal facepalm 🤦…. Obvious in retrospect)
It costs me 0 kWh to get from home to town (18 to 20 miles one way) and 10% soc to get back. There’s no skimping on that climb. The piper must be paid.
 

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It costs me 0 kWh to get from home to town (18 to 20 miles one way) and 10% soc to get back. There’s no skimping on that climb. The piper must be paid.
For me, it was skiing. Going from sea level to 3500 ft through steep hollows at high speed was something like 2 miles per KWH. Coming down it was like 5. I was so anxious that I wouldn’t make it to the midway charger, but arrived off the mountain with something like 25%. 🙄 Of course it is the elevation 🤦

Be of good courage!
 


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I have my tesla spots saved in navigation when i go all over LA and back home over the mountains to Bakersfield. My only MAJOR angry point is i wish navigation included Tesla spots. It ONLY goes to EV when you are using navigation. In my 21 MME I could pick and choose who i wanted to show up. In my 2023/2024 There are no choices. I do NOT understand why these cannot be added into it. My daughter has a Polestar and it uses google maps as their primary navigation and they have everyone showing up. I just get EV....I hate EV.
 

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-waits for someone to post how all 3 modes have the same range-
IF they are driven the same way in each mode, then you are correct. However, if you are in Unbridled, you are probably driving more aggressively than you would be in Whisper mode. The aggressive driving burns more electrons, hence Whisper mode will give you better range because you are less likely to push it hard.

If you are simply cruising the interstate at a constant speed, then it won't make a difference.
 

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Oh man, I love the waves! When I occasionally use PAAK, I set the cruise as soon as possible to bring back my waves. :)
 

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IF they are driven the same way in each mode, then you are correct. However, if you are in Unbridled, you are probably driving more aggressively than you would be in Whisper mode. The aggressive driving burns more electrons, hence Whisper mode will give you better range because you are less likely to push it hard.

If you are simply cruising the interstate at a constant speed, then it won't make a difference.
Lately I have been testing all three modes in both 1 pedal and 2 pedal and I might give 2 pedal whisper mode the "distance advantage" in one very specify situation, but probably by not much.

Let's start with some basics. If maintaining the same speed, say on the highway, there is zero difference. Second the most efficient is to "keep moving". Regenerative breaking will not return all the lost energy in comparison to if you don't come to a stop.

So, by far the most efficient driving (if possible) is to slow down coming into a red light, and especially if you can avoid stopping at all because of this.

In all modes the acceleration is dependent on how you press the accelerator. What is different is how much acceleration you get for how much pressing. You just have to be lighter on the foot as you move up from whisper to engage to unbridle. I drive in unbridle because I like the tighter steering and if I have to accelerate really fast to get out of a bad situation, it will take off a bit faster.
But I'm normally very light on the foot and I see no difference in miles per kW.

I also, normally drive in 1 pedal mode, and frankly with my driving style (which people might call old man driving) I can hardly tell the difference between the modes.

But when I switched to 2 pedal mode and tested the different modes, I did see a marked difference in whisper in one case. And that is in "coasting". If there is any regenerative breaking in this mode is extremely small. So, that brings up the one use case I can see that would get some more distance. Coasting down a hill in comparison to using regenerative breaking down the hill is more efficient. The energy lost will be less than the amount returned to the battery, this is pure physics. No system can convert one form of energy to another without some loss. It might not be much, but there is a loss.

But going back to the original statement on getting more distance by going to whisper mode, I suspect you have just been fooled by the GOM. There are many reasons it isn't an exact number. First off, the SOC isn't really an exact number, the battery management system is guessing at it. Second that number has to be converted into miles. That is done by looking at your recent driving and seeing about what you are getting. If you change either the way you are driving or the type of roads (going from mixed highway and city, to just city for instance) the prediction isn't going to be exact (actually it is never exact).
 
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I've had my '23 MME since July 2024 and always drove with Engage mode. Just used Whisper mode today for the first time because I had barely enough range (38 miles) to make my 35 mile commute home. The wavy blue lighting around the center speedometer was a tad bit annoying. Made it home with front windows 1/2 way down, 74 degrees outside, a/c not needed anyway, no range anxiety at all and 11 miles / 3% battery left over.
I DO love this car !!
The waves are relaxing. Or at least I tell myself that.
 

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I read in a different thread in this forum that the only difference between Whisper, Engage, and Unbridled is the calibration of the accelerator pedal, i.e. more energy is released in Engage and even more in Unbridaled for the same amount of pedal travel, short of flooring it. But by the time the pedal is floored in all 3 modes, each is releasing the same amount of energy. That explanation aligns with the notion that the range is the same in all 3 modes, but with an asterisk. Or as someone noted above, you'd need to drive exactly the same way over the same terrain to get the same range.
 

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I read in a different thread in this forum that the only difference between Whisper, Engage, and Unbridled is the calibration of the accelerator pedal, i.e. more energy is released in Engage and even more in Unbridaled for the same amount of pedal travel, short of flooring it. But by the time the pedal is floored in all 3 modes, each is releasing the same amount of energy. That explanation aligns with the notion that the range is the same in all 3 modes, but with an asterisk. Or as someone noted above, you'd need to drive exactly the same way over the same terrain to get the same range.
Yes, the throttle mapping is changed from one drive mode to another, and 100% go pedal is the same for all three modes. Regenerative behavior is also more aggressive in Unbridled than Engage, and least aggressive in Whisper. Steering assist is also less in Unbridled and most in Whisper. For Magneride cars, Whisper offers the softest damper mapping, while Unbridled offers a more aggressive (while still being too soft) damper mapping. 😁🐩
 
 







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