Unplugging L2 Charger After Remote Start

[Jimrpa]

The requirements are different in Europe because your connectors don't have the latch on top.

Figures. I’m surprised the Europeans didn’t come up with a whole bunch of completely incompatible plugs, voltages, and frequencies - one for each country ?????

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[DevSecOps]

None of them has ever locked the Level-2 to the car.

VW locks L2 to the car.

 

[Jimrpa]

I understand but the button to the right of the charge port doesn't do anything for L2. It's only for L3 (DCFC)

That’s what I thought too. As I said, I was just relaying my experience this morning ?‍

 

[RickMachE]

To be clear, the car isn’t actively charging. I plug it in at night and in the morning, charging is complete. I remote start it so that I have a comfortable cabin environment before I leave. I’ve never tried disconnecting the charge coupler while the car is actively charging (actually, I’d never do that - I’d go into FordPass and tell it to stop charging first).

Think for a minute. Your charging is done. You remote start (or set a departure time). As the vehicle starts to use battery, it then kicks in the charger to maintain battery level. Therefore, you are in fact charging.

 

[DevSecOps]

That’s what I thought too. As I said, I was just relaying my experience this morning ?‍

I think my grandfather called this a kawinkidink ?

 

[generaltso]

VW locks L2 to the car.

The RAV4 Prime does too. That was the first thing I turned off.

 

[Maquis]

Figures. I’m surprised the Europeans didn’t come up with a whole bunch of completely incompatible plugs, voltages, and frequencies - one for each country ?????

As a former design engineer of machinery we exported, I can say that electrical standardization across Europe is quite good!

 

[noway]

I understand but the button to the right of the charge port doesn't do anything for L2. It's only for L3 (DCFC)

Even if there is a difference between EU and US where it does not lock in US, but does in EU, it sould still stop charging when pressed.

 

[Jimrpa]

Think for a minute. Your charging is done. You remote start (or set a departure time). As the vehicle starts to use battery, it then kicks in the charger to maintain battery level. Therefore, you are in fact charging.

Precisely. Hence why I decided to try pressing the button that “does nothing unless the car is connected to L3”, just for giggles. Who knows, perhaps I was slow this morning and actually had the delay that Sam described when I pulled the plug out? Maybe the ford galactic supercomputer had another meltdown and wasn’t able to tell my car to throw a temper tantrum because I didn’t do things the right way? I dunno. Just relaying my one time experience.

 

[DevSecOps]

Even if there is a difference between EU and US where it does not lock in US, but does in EU, it sould still stop charging when pressed.

No, on L2, the button does absolutely nothing. You can charge your car go out and push the button 10 times, 100 times, and your car will still charge.

 

[Jimrpa]

As a former design engineer of machinery we exported, I can say that electrical standardization across Europe is quite good!

As someone who has traveled extensively thought out Europe, I’m happy to show you the complicated gizmo I got that replaced the little bag of various adapter plugs I used to carry. I will confess that the voltage/current comment was a bit of hyperbole (most use 50 Hz/220V), but the plug standard most certainly is NOT.

 

[louibluey]

Pushing the button on the J1772 handle is supposed to do any L2 unlocking / stop charging needed.

I do notice that L2, if I have blue charging (one sector flashing blue) or just solid blue MME charge port indication, pressing the white button does cause all of the sectors to change to white, so that white button does do something, even if not relevant to L2. (maybe all it does L2, is change the lights to white, not sure)

 

[noway]

As someone who has traveled extensively thought out Europe, I’m happy to show you the complicated gizmo I got that replaced the little bag of various adapter plugs I used to carry. I will confess that the voltage/current comment was a bit of hyperbole (most use 50 Hz/220V), but the plug standard most certainly is NOT.

The general voltage in europe is 230V and it is always 50Hz. There is no voltage difference anywhere, some countries used 220V and some 240V, but 230V is now "standard".

But.. when going into distribution design there are differences. One of the most interesting thing in europe is actually that by the EVSE standard charging is not allowed to start in a significant part of norway since we have no neutral wire, and partially no ground either (just "ground"). EVSE requires a ground-to-neutral check, which will by design fail. It seems to come as a shock to anyone releasing new cars, even Ford, that it cannot charge even in 1 phase mode.

 

[Maquis]

As someone who has traveled extensively thought out Europe, I’m happy to show you the complicated gizmo I got that replaced the little bag of various adapter plugs I used to carry. I will confess that the voltage/current comment was a bit of hyperbole (most use 50 Hz/220V), but the plug standard most certainly is NOT.

Fortunately our designs didn’t plug in. There are really only 3 different ones, UK, north & south. The north and south have slightly different pin sizes, but I was always able to use my smaller adapter for both. I don’t recall whether north or south was the small one. There could be some others in the former Soviet block countries, but I never had to venture farther east than the Czech Republic and Poland.

 

[DevSecOps]

I do notice that L2, if I have blue charging or just solid blue MME charge port indication, pressing the white button does cause all of the sectors to change to white, so that white button does do something, even if not relevant to L2. (maybe all it does L2, is change the lights to white, not sure)

That is true, but if you look at your charger you'll see it doesn't stop. It just continues to charge. Blue flashy = charging

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