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You guys are talking like Ford has a choice and purposely trying to just screw 'you'. Base on what's been said, its most likely some government regulation that is forcing Ford to jump thru hoops. Either the rules changed or the development team misunderstood the rules. Either way they were forced to add the divider and disable the remote frunk control. No point trying to argue common sense since its not like you are going to convince the big brother to see your point of view.
Maybe the latter, sort of. More likely a different approach to the regulations than past practice though. I've yet to find any regulatory changes of a recent nature relating to trunks. That doesn't mean they're not there, it just means I haven't seen them. I'm not part of Ford's regulatory compliance team, so it's not my job to stay on top of such things. I just did a cursory search of proposed rule changes and that's it.

Consider the 2021 Porsche Boxster. Large front trunk, a bit larger than the undivided MME. The Boxster has no divider and two methods of entry: the interior release (similar though not identical to the MME) and the keyfob release (also similar but not identical). Both the MME and the 718 are subject to the same safety regulations. Subject to the same child trapped inside rules. The only difference I can see is that on the Boxster, you pull once (or press the button once) then use the mechanical release under the front trunk lid. If I had to bet, the issue is with the way the Ford system does the second release and how that interconnects with the emergency release. Fortunately, despite my location on this rock (or perhaps because of it), I'm not a betting person. So I actually don't have to bet.

My only concern with the divider is if the cars do come with it and we remove them, just how ugly will the frunk liner look? Are they self-tapping screws that leave ugly scars around the holes in the liner? Are they nicely made openings for pins or Torx screws? If we leave the dividers in, that's not an issue. If you were planning on using the frunk for something larger than a tall, narrow bottle washer fluid, it might very well make that all wasted space.
 

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I think you're misunderstanding the what I'm talking about. It is a NJ rebate of $5,000 for the purchase of a vehicle with an MSRP, as set by the manufacturer, that is below $55,000. You fill out a form, add supporting documentation, send it in and they send you a $5,000 check.

My concern is that, if my windows sticker looks like the one shown, they may reject my application for being over the limit. This is a cash rebate - there's nothing to 'audit', as this is NOT the same as the $7,500 Fed tax 'credit'.
Actually, they are trying to get it setup as a refund to the dealer so that the 5K comes directly off the purchase price.
 

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My disappointment with the frunk is not the divider, but the disabled electronic release (fob and screen). The power liftgate will just be much easier. Even if they later enable the buttons.

But if I did decide to use the frunk for groceries, the divider looks about the perfect size to me for standard plastic grocery bags. (Locations where they're outlawed may be out of luck though.)
 

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Maybe the latter, sort of. More likely a different approach to the regulations than past practice though. I've yet to find any regulatory changes of a recent nature relating to trunks. That doesn't mean they're not there, it just means I haven't seen them. I'm not part of Ford's regulatory compliance team, so it's not my job to stay on top of such things. I just did a cursory search of proposed rule changes and that's it.

Consider the 2021 Porsche Boxster. Large front trunk, a bit larger than the undivided MME. The Boxster has no divider and two methods of entry: the interior release (similar though not identical to the MME) and the keyfob release (also similar but not identical). Both the MME and the 718 are subject to the same safety regulations. Subject to the same child trapped inside rules. The only difference I can see is that on the Boxster, you pull once (or press the button once) then use the mechanical release under the front trunk lid. If I had to bet, the issue is with the way the Ford system does the second release and how that interconnects with the emergency release. Fortunately, despite my location on this rock (or perhaps because of it), I'm not a betting person. So I actually don't have to bet.

My only concern with the divider is if the cars do come with it and we remove them, just how ugly will the frunk liner look? Are they self-tapping screws that leave ugly scars around the holes in the liner? Are they nicely made openings for pins or Torx screws? If we leave the dividers in, that's not an issue. If you were planning on using the frunk for something larger than a tall, narrow bottle washer fluid, it might very well make that all wasted space.
Again, I believe the frunk is pretty air tight. So like a refrigerator you can run out of air pretty quick.
 

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I think you're misunderstanding the what I'm talking about. It is a NJ rebate of $5,000 for the purchase of a vehicle with an MSRP, as set by the manufacturer, that is below $55,000. You fill out a form, add supporting documentation, send it in and they send you a $5,000 check.

My concern is that, if my windows sticker looks like the one shown, they may reject my application for being over the limit. This is a cash rebate - there's nothing to 'audit', as this is NOT the same as the $7,500 Fed tax 'credit'.
I would pose the question to them and state the Vehicle MSRP is x and the destination and shipping MSRP is Y. Two completely different line items. The MSRP for the vehicle is itemized and distinct. The MSRP for the Destination is clearly delineated as well. Then Ford adds them together but they are separated on the sticker.

You can have the dealer list the Vehicle one one line item of the contract, which they may any way, and the Destination in the next line, tax next etc.

I would be comfortable with interpretation of the Legislatures Spirit and Intent thar it's the Vehicle value they are aiming for. Again, just ask them. Good Luck!
 

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No latch to release at the front so you can raise it from the side.
Opening the frunk wouldn't be the issue. There wouldn't be room. In the parking lot because you have vehicles on the sides and in the front so you can't get to it. In the garage because, well, I have to park close to the wall or the garbage cans. LOL

Just easier to use the hatch.
 

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My concern is that, if my windows sticker looks like the one shown, they may reject my application for being over the limit. This is a cash rebate - there's nothing to 'audit', as this is NOT the same as the $7,500 Fed tax 'credit'.
Agree with @Regularmache. The MSRP is something very specific and does not include the destination fees or something like a dealer add-on or even a markup or discount. If the dealer offered a $800 discount would that change anything? They don't want to mess with these types of questions so they specified MSRP. Looks like a gimme in your favor.

The worst would be if a color added enough to move the MSRP over the limit. Now that would be a bummer! :eek:
 

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I would pose the question to them and state the Vehicle MSRP is x and the destination and shipping MSRP is Y. Two completely different line items. The MSRP for the vehicle is itemized and distinct. The MSRP for the Destination is clearly delineated as well. Then Ford adds them together but they are separated on the sticker.

You can have the dealer list the Vehicle one one line item of the contract, which they may any way, and the Destination in the next line, tax next etc.

I would be comfortable with interpretation of the Legislatures Spirit and Intent thar it's the Vehicle value they are aiming for. Again, just ask them. Good Luck!
You can always argue that the reel base price of the vehicle is even lower has tha base Premium comes with the smaller battery and RWD. So the bigger battery and the AWD are in fact options for that car.
 

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health over all else I hope
Yes please. Employee health and safety is a priority over the delivery date of my Mustang Mach E. I want to know that my car was built with the employee’s safety as the first priority, then quality. Delivery can wait for those two important things 🙂
 

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Today is OKTB as I remember, is that correct? Will there be an announcement for that?
 



 









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