H&R Lowering Springs Released For Mach-E

It looks like H & R has released sport lowering springs for all models except for the GTPE (with the magneride).

https://www.hrsprings.com/






Does anyone on here have these installed yet? How's the ride? How's the bounce? How's the clearance when it comes to opening the door next to curbs or un-even surfaces?

Come on aftermarket, figure out that we want DAMPERS

@Scooby24 Yes! Anyone who makes better dampers for our cars is going to make a killing. The full coilovers by KW are selling well but are a little too pricey for most folks.

Electric Goat said:

It looks like H & R has released sport lowering springs for all models except for the GTPE (with the magneride).

https://www.hrsprings.com/

Does anyone on here have these installed yet? How's the ride? How's the bounce? How's the clearance when it comes to opening the door next to curbs or un-even surfaces?

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Haha, swapping in some lowering springs in conjunction with OEM shocks/struts that aren’t up to the task usually results in worse “bounce”. Koni Yellows or Bilsteins are what I’d be waiting for.

Pushrods&Capacitors said:

Haha, swapping in some lowering springs in conjunction with OEM shocks/struts that aren’t up to the task usually results in worse “bounce”. Koni Yellows or Bilsteins are what I’d be waiting for.

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Good to know! Ok, everyone.... lets all message Koni & Bilstein with our requests!

Koni: https://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmerica/About/Contact/

Bilstein: https://bilstein.com/en-us/contact/

OK, the CA Prop. 65 warning on the springs cracks me up. ??

Electric Goat said:

Good to know! Ok, everyone.... lets all message Koni & Bilstein with our requests!

Koni: https://www.koni-na.com/en-US/NorthAmerica/About/Contact/

Bilstein: https://bilstein.com/en-us/contact/

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Been doing this for months....

Two reasons why I personally would not install these springs.

1. Unless I was able to install struts/shocks that were stiffer, the car would most likely bottom out more when it's loaded beings that it will be lower. I always install stiffer dampers when installing lowering springs.

2. They are stating the rear will be slightly lower than the front after installing their springs. Right now my rear is 1/4" higher than the front. These springs would probably level out the car and I personally like the slight bit of rake it has. If it was level, as soon as I have one or two passengers in the back, the car would for sure be lower in the rear and that doesn't work for me. This can be easily fixed though by adding a hard rubber donut spacer at the bottom of the rear spring but that is not something I usually like to do.

It would be nice to know the spring rates of these and how much they differ from the OEM springs.

@markboris

You make very valid points. I'll avoid these springs for the same reasons. Also because my GT door just barely misses scraping the top of curbs already.

Steeda told me they are developing springs, so I assume these are not what they were referring to.

I am looking for springs that are more closely aligned with my shocks, and reduce excessive bounce. I think matched with the right springs, the existing dampers are fine. Of course shocks that are more damped and better matched with the springs will work also.

I am rooting for Steeda to do it right, but probably they are looking at lowering also. Unfortunately.

markboris said:

Two reasons why I personally would not install these springs.

1. Unless I was able to install struts/shocks that were stiffer, the car would most likely bottom out more when it's loaded beings that it will be lower. I always install stiffer dampers when installing lowering springs.

2. They are stating the rear will be slightly lower than the front after installing their springs. Right now my rear is 1/4" higher than the front. These springs would probably level out the car and I personally like the slight bit of rake it has. If it was level, as soon as I have one or two passengers in the back, the car would for sure be lower in the rear and that doesn't work for me. This can be easily fixed though by adding a hard rubber donut spacer at the bottom of the rear spring but that is not something I usually like to do.

It would be nice to know the spring rates of these and how much they differ from the OEM springs.

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This is why I'll never get lowering springs of any type...

Anyone tried these yet? Sounds like nobody is interested, but maybe someone tried them...

markboris said:

Been doing this for months....

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Yes, I also contacted Koni and Bilstein months ago. Neither of them had a plan yet. Anyone get a different response?

mkhuffman said:

Steeda told me they are developing springs, so I assume these are not what they were referring to.

I am looking for springs that are more closely aligned with my shocks, and reduce excessive bounce. I think matched with the right springs, the existing dampers are fine. Of course shocks that are more damped and better matched with the springs will work also.

I am rooting for Steeda to do it right, but probably they are looking at lowering also. Unfortunately.

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A friend of mine used to work for Ford as a designer and he was also a race car driver. He drove my car and said it needs better dampers, not different springs.

mkhuffman said:

Anyone tried these yet? Sounds like nobody is interested, but maybe someone tried them...

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Well Mike, I had to try them out. While I did post here ( #8 ) that I would NOT install these springs, I had to check them out to see what they are really like. When I had my premium, I installed GT springs to lower the car which it did, 1/2". I also tried out a set of custom lowering springs on the Premium which didn't lower the car hardly at all. On my GT I tried air suspension so I could keep it at the lowered ride hight I like (one inch drop) and also be able to raise it if needed. Unfortunately that project required more development than I wanted to spend the time on ( #1 ).

I'm not after a dropped to the ground look, just want to lessen the wheel well gap a little (3/4" - 1"). I installed the H&R sport springs and have driven just over 250 miles. They have settled down and have dropped 1/4" since they were first installed. H&R states they do not fit the GTPE however that didn't stop me. I know the springs on ALL the Mach-E's are the same shape/design. Only difference is the spring rate and height so I knew they would fit. I figured maybe since the GTPE has magneride struts/shocks that they figured a height adjustment on the car would have to be performed but that's not true. I dropped the car 2" when I first installed the air suspension and never got a warning or anything (I did recalibrate the sensors for the height of the car after a few days with that suspension). After reading the note that was included on with the springs, I found out why they most likely don't recommend them for the GTPE. The note stated you must cut the bumper stops on the front struts 3/8" and the rear shocks 3/4". While you can do this on the rear shocks, the front bumper stops on for the front magneride struts are internal so you can't cut them. 3/8" is not all that much to remove and I'm not worried if it happens to contact the bumper stop too quickly. So far, in the driving I've done which all the city and freeway roads I have around here, the car has not bottomed out once. Maybe if I load up the frunk with a lot of weight that might happen.

Ok, so I started out with a slightly less wheel gap than a normal GTPE since I put my all season tires on the car for winter (we only get a dusting of snow here) and they are larger in diameter than the stock tires by 3/4". That reduces the wheel well gap by 3/8". My measurement from the ground to the bottom of the wheel lip opening dead center was 30 1/4" front and 30 1/2" rear. After installing the H&R springs, I had an unusual ride height I was not expecting. H&R states the springs will drop the car approximately 1 1/2" front and rear. Since I have a GT, that is already lowered by 1/2" so I was expecting about a 1" drop. My new front measurement is 29 1/2"" which was only a 3/4"" drop while my rear ended up being 29 1/4" which was 1 1/4"" drop. So I ended up with the rear end 1/4" lower than the front. NOT what I expected or wanted. I like my rear to be about 1/4" higher than the front so it is almost a level look. To fix this issue, I installed Steeda 1/4" aluminum rear spring spacers (rings) at the top of the rear springs. For those that don't know, when adding a rear coil spring spacer to a Mustang (and many other cars) the ride height is double the spacer height. Since I wanted to raise the rear 1/2", I put in 1/4" spacers, one on each side. That brought my rear up to 29 3/4"" so now I it's 1/4" higher than the front.

While this spring change only ended up getting me 3/4"" lower total ride height, it looks really good and I'm happy with it. As far as the ride goes, H&R sport springs have a higher spring rate than the OE springs. The car rides a bit more firm but somehow also smoother over irregular roads. There is still a bit of bounce but I don't have roads around here that induce that harmonic bounce that many others get. The shocks on the car do not have enough dampening even these magnerides on Unbridled and with the new springs, I would like more. Still holding out for Bilstein or Koni do come out with some good sport shock for this car.

Edit: I forgot to mention the handling. It’s again even more flat like when I added the Steeda sway bars. It compliments them nicely.

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