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Could there a difference between level 2 and level 3 filling efficiency? Many Tesla graphs for level 3 drop in charging speed with increase of SOC. Will this be true for level 2? Based upon my CMax Energi and what third party vendors state, no.
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Could there a difference between level 2 and level 3 filling efficiency? Many Tesla graphs for level 3 drop in charging speed with increase of SOC. Will this be true for level 2? Based upon my CMax Energi and what third party vendors state, no.
That's a great question. I'm guessing the answer is no, simply because the 7.6 kW L2 charging rate is still below all of the L3 tapered charge rates. So probably no reason to taper it as it nears full SOC.
 

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Level 2 charging is at a constant rate. Level 3 charging rate varies with state of charge and battery temperature.
 

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I would hope the typical stuff would be configurable. I'd be shocked if it wasn't.
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Yes, of course the typical charge stuff will be configurable in-car, and maybe also via the smartphone app. We already know about Departure Times. I'm assuming, for now, that we'll also be able to set current limiting via the car.

What I'm still hoping to see is availability of additional plug adapters -- beyond the two included with the car. In my case, I'd like a NEMA 14-30 adapter from Ford, and I want the adapter to safely inform the EVSE box that its rate must be no more than 24 amps. No need for dip switches. No need to adjusting settings in the car or via an app.

This shouldn't be hard whatsoever. It just needs resistor embedded in the adapter. I'm sure Tesla must already be doing something like that for the entire suite of charge adapters that they sell for their mobile EVSE.

But there's probably more advanced stuff that the fancier chargers can do.
As it turns out, not a whole heck of a lot! I'm assuming Enel X loaned their new JuiceBox charger to Alex on Autos in hopes of a favorable review... but what I learned from this video is that "smart" EVSEs aren't terribly smart. The J1772 protocol is too limited on what the EVSE is able to know about the car's charging state and health.
 


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I thought the same thing. But with further research I found my local utility (Detroit Edison) has a $500 rebate for particular plug-in wall hanging units.

Since I have to have a 14-50 plug installed anyway to use the mobile EVSC Ford provides or a plug-in wall hanging unit. The aftermarket wall units that DTE will provide a rebate for are in the $600 range. That works out that I can get an aftermarket wall mounted unit for an approximate net cost of $100 (excluding the wiring and plug install). The Ford hardwired wall mounted unit is probably going to be in the $750+ range (and no rebate) so that is probably out of the running cost wise.

With this plan I could keep the provided portable EVSC in the vehicle.
Similar situation in NJ, except that the state gives the $500 rebate on the EVSE so it can be any charger. I'll definitely get an EVSE and leave the mobile one in the car, just waiting for prices and specs to decide between Chargepoint, Ford, or whomever.
 

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Similar situation in NJ, except that the state gives the $500 rebate on the EVSE so it can be any charger. I'll definitely get an EVSE and leave the mobile one in the car, just waiting for prices and specs to decide between Chargepoint, Ford, or whomever.
My speculation is that the Ford hardwired version will be in the $750-$800 range. That’s why I’m shopping the Juicebox models that my utility will rebate. I’m thinking about spending the federal stimulus money for the electrical service work. Looking to work with a local company.
 

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My speculation is that the Ford hardwired version will be in the $750-$800 range. That’s why I’m shopping the Juicebox models that my utility will rebate. I’m thinking about spending the federal stimulus money for the electrical service work. Looking to work with a local company.
Is that all DTE is providing these days ($500, er quoted the wrong post LOL)? Back in 2013 they would give you $2500 toward the EVSE and installation.
 

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Is that all DTE is providing these days ($500, er quoted the wrong post LOL)? Back in 2013 they would give you $2500 toward the EVSE and installation.
Yeah, that's it. But the off peak rate per kWh is around $0.08, so that's a bonus.

You could qualify for a $500 DTE rebate if you:
  • Purchase or lease an EV
  • Install a qualified Level 2 charger
  • Enroll in a year-round time-of-use (TOU) rate
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My speculation is that the Ford hardwired version will be in the $750-$800 range. That’s why I’m shopping the Juicebox models that my utility will rebate. I’m thinking about spending the federal stimulus money for the electrical service work. Looking to work with a local company.
Could be remembering wrong, but I thought I heard something about a $500 adder for the Ford wall charger a while back.
 

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It must be one hell of a charger for over $700. Should get an extra 2 years on the battery warranty at that price.
 

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It must be one hell of a charger for over $700. Should get an extra 2 years on the battery warranty at that price.
I think it's a pretty nice unit. Lots of connectivity features. I thought the wall unit came with a 3 year warranty, but it does not impact the vehicle battery warranty. The charger in the vehicle controls the charging and protects the battery. The wall unit is just a fancy extension cord with extra internet capable goodies.

Oh, and you can include cost of the Ford wall unit itself (I don't think the installation cost too) in with the vehicle financing.
 

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That price would make sense for getting an additional (extra) mobile EVSE cable. From what I've seen I think the hardwired version will be more than $700.


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But..it is only 16amp rated. Don't spend that much money for a 16 amp line that will not have the capacity to charge at 25 miles per hour. Look at Clipper Creek: https://store.clippercreek.com/featured/16-amp-evse-14-50-plug NEMA 1450 only 16 amp for $395. You really want the capacity of 40amp or greater : https://store.clippercreek.com/feat...-EVSE-Charging-Station-25-ft-cable-NEMA-14-50
 
 




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